Prop 19 Results - It has been a long time coming but...

[stuweed224]

Alienate the under 21 crowd (what Prop19 did) and limit quantities of what should have never been "illegal" in the first place is a winning proposition? Not hardly. How many cases of beer or WINE am I limited to?

When does a US citizen start paying SS taxes? ON THEIR FIRST CHECK STUB even if they are 13. Like when I was a paper boy.
How old does a man or woman have to be to DIE for this county in armed service? Eighteen WITHOUT parental approval.

So you have service folks across the pond and here at home ready to die for you and you really think those freedoms and rights are defined by age and they (military) don't merit?

That is what you said when you approved this measure; under 21 ADULTS DON'T COUNT. The oppressors relish this internal fight (divide and conquer) and you played right into their hands.

Maybe you aught to put the pipe down.

Enjoy the loss..now even Oblahblah won't be able to rein in the Feds.

[stuweed224]

Alienate the under 21 crowd (what Prop19 did) and limit quantities of what should have never been "illegal" in the first place is a winning proposition? Not hardly. How many cases of beer or WINE am I limited to?

When does a US citizen start paying SS taxes? ON THEIR FIRST CHECK STUB even if they are 13. Like when I was a paper boy.
How old does a man or woman have to be to DIE for this county in armed service? Eighteen WITHOUT parental approval.

So you have service folks across the pond and here at home ready to die for you and you really think those freedoms and rights are defined by age and they (military) don't merit?

That is what you said when you approved this measure; under 21 ADULTS DON'T COUNT. The oppressors relish this internal fight (divide and conquer) and you played right into their hands.

Maybe you aught to put the pipe down.

Enjoy the loss..now even Oblahblah won't be able to rein in the Feds.

[WillyNilly]

We got you the first time.

19 was intended to be passable. There's no way people would vote to lower the drinking age these days. The idea was to make weed like alcohol.

[ZeroWingX]

Of coarse it will include a tax ALL vices are taxed, its called a sin tax!

Why dont you lead the charge in lowering your prices...didnt think so!

Im starting to become bitter towards the mmj crowd. Its a rip off, mmj in Canada ranges from 150-160 oz. Where is all that money going Cali?(not taxes)
Eh from the way mmj laws are starting to shape in states lucky enough to have them i dont see it being around long anyway. Just ask New Jersey, worst mmj law ever! Washington States isnt much better.

My prices are low,I charge 10-100 cheaper than most Dispensaries already. I plan on getting even lower come 2011 when I open my Dispensary because I'll have more customers coming in. This might allow me to lower my prices to compensate for slower customer base I have now. Like I said I do this because I like growing and helping people, not to become a millionaire... tsshhh I'm not even a half a 1/4thanaire lol, hell I'd be happy with 100k in the bank but I'm not that close either... Not all the MMJ crowd is about money, there are those of us that do it just because we like to. Think about this. Whats the cost of living HERE in Cali? ok... and whats the cost of living in Canada?... hmmm so u want us to grow and cure, distribute for $5? come on bro we gotta least be able to pay Southern California Edison's high ass electricity bills... Unless you wanna buy me solar panels =) then I'll drop to 150 oz ^^
You know as well as I do the cost of EVERYTHING here is high, we gotta eat too. I just try to make enough to support my Bizz,pay my Bills and go fishing every now and then; that's it.
Now as far as those LA and Mid Cal bastards who WAY over charge, go preach to them about their 300+ OZ stuff. I would never charge that much for a Oz no matter what it was. I'll let you know right now Skywalker is a HIGH yield-er and grows like a freaken wildfire all my SW mothers are pretty young still and are already 5 feet tall; there is no reason to charge over 300 and oz when that plant puts out like it does(One 3ft I grew kicked out 3.3oz solo). Same goes for a lot of strains that yield good who's prices are super high. Now I can see like Vortex being a little high as it takes a while to grow and its potent as hell, or Bubba kush which is average yielding and kinda finicky(like a needy Girlfriend lol). But still not worth 300, tsshhh not 290 either... Ideally no bag should really be over 220oz, that makes for a decent living without raping patients, Least in Cali... I'll be at the 180-200 mark here real soon, so yes in a way I will be starting the trend of dropping prices. They are high, we can fix it, just going to take a few people and time. "Rome wasn't built in a day"...
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[Ub3rB0ng]

True, but the % is to high. That's like watching the rest of the Lakers game that happened last night lol... a blowout is a blowout XD
I guess I better put my focus on the HTMCC next year now that the Legal stuffs done. I got a lot of work to perfect my Strain =/
Go Lakers! :thumbsup:

yeah I know,thats what I get for posting at 1am ;D

[ZeroWingX]

Then do something about it and quit whining. Why is it everyone in an illegal state feels the need to coach CA on how to vote? If you want MMJ try to get it on the ballot in you're state. If you just want to smoke pot instead of drinking alchohol, try to get legalization on you're ballot. But don't bitch about CA doing whats right for CA. I for one am glad to see this pile of shit fail miserably and I don't even live there. This just gave us some more time before the government takes over mj, then you fools will be smoking schwag joints in marlboro wrappers rejoicing about how its all legal now. Grow a pair.

Kinda gotta agree with this. Why should Cali be the rest of the worlds Lab Rat? What we should mess up our current laws for the experimental Tax an REGULATION laws of the Gov? Umm I think not, I'm very sorry your state doesn't have MMJ, I wish you could move here. But if you really want change make it happen for your state. If the law passed and it messed everything up and got industrialized would you come help us out? Would you come pay more of my already high ass taxes? You can speak about something you don't experience because you don't live here.Bro we have so many Taxes I cant even keep up with them, sales, state, alcohol, property, blah, blah ,blah, damn now you want to Tax my Marijuana? No...
Stay here 21 years and watch how California acts and the next time they try to further Tax and Regulate you, I promise you'll vote No for any gov interference.
If the bill stated even one time "Marijuana will be LEGAL in the state of California under federal law...blah blah" Then you bet your sweet ass I would have Voted Yes and been out there with a big green leaf painted on my chest everyday. But The law was severely corrupted, I'm not waiting for a perfect law, just a fair one. I can go die for my country but cant have a drink or smoke for my stress... wow... what can I do?
Now come 2012 I hope the next prop will actually make it legal, and not be so restricting, then yes, I would gladly pay taxes on it and that would truly start the Legalize movement for West. Amstradam's Just waiting on us, but we just need to make a fair bill that respects the Culture while helping our deficit.
Legalization isn't the same as Regulation... Think...
One Love...
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[mikeyman]

this really suck eggs. i can't believe what a bunch of party poopers

[DavidBriggs]

Actually, YES on 19 outspent the opposition by more than 10x. I don't really think this was a money problem...

Dont be so nearsighted, money has been spent to demonize cannabis since 1930 when Anslinger became the director of the newest Federal department - The Federal Bureau of Narcotics.

So much money has been poured in that we have not scratched the surface in combativeness.

[greenghost]

prop 19 should have won....they divided the people once again and now legalization will have to wait till 2012.



Why Did Prop 19 go Down?

[KatfromFurton]

. Not all of us can just choose to get ourselves a card and start growing. People can still go to jail for possession of less than an ounce where I live....

Three of my friends were smoking a doob in a car on the property of a family member of one of them. A cop rolled up, went on the property, busted out his flashlight.

They all got arrested. The two that had drivers licenses were slapped with 1yr suspensions (on the DLs) and all of them got 1yr of probation. They were also held overnight in the jail.

This was in my home town a couple years ago. The town is very small, only a few thousand, yet is the county seat. That's how small this place is, and they don't mess around.

To all of you lucky ducks who can actually grow with cards, the very thought that such a place exists makes me happy so keep it up and be happy !