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    only 2 % off on prop 19

    come on grab a friend and get down there and VOTE YES ON 19....:rastasmoke:the latest polls say we are 2% behind on proP19
    mikeyman Reviewed by mikeyman on . only 2 % off on prop 19 come on grab a friend and get down there and VOTE YES ON 19....:rastasmoke:the latest polls say we are 2% behind on proP19 Rating: 5

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    #2
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    only 2 % off on prop 19

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyman
    come on grab a friend and get down there and VOTE YES ON 19....:rastasmoke:the latest polls say we are 2% behind on proP19
    I want to believe it. Got a source for that?

    Here's a hopeful message from the campaign:

    To: Interested Parties
    From: Chris Lehane and Dan Newman
    Date: October 31, 2010
    Re: Election Day Report

    With Election Day just days away, Proposition 19 is looking history in the eye and not blinking (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/us...ics/31pot.html).

    Proposition 19 is where it is today because of the support, energy and commitment this campaign has received from every corner of the state. Proposition 19 reflects the mosaic that is California -- Democrats, Republicans and Independents; Labor and Business; people of all colors and creeds; north and south; east and west; and even Dodgers, Angels, Padres and Giants fans.

    And like the San Francisco Giants - we are focused on making history.

    Many politicians are talking a good game when it comes to change but Proposition 19 shows that for real change to happen we the people must lead -- and then the politicians will follow.

    In the context of Election Day, polls that are all over the map and countless stories discussing the impact of Proposition 19, we wanted to provide you an update on the campaign's strategy and game plan as we close out this election.

    Strategically, while 19 is a "Yes" vote, and therefore has the burden of proof to make its case, there is a "No" element to the initiative - and that is to pose the question to voters as to whether they believe the current prohibition approach has worked.

    Provocative "Yes" campaigns have historically won by framing the issue with an effective closing argument. On this issue a large majority of voters already agree with the final premise, because they share the perspective that the current system of prohibition is a failure.

    The closing argument is being made by compelling voices including law enforcement and moms that are focused on four messages:
    Prohibition has not worked and reform is needed;
    19 will allow us to fight the drug cartels by taking away the black market;
    19, by treating marijuana like alcohol, will make it harder for kids to get marijuana; and
    19 will generate massive new revenue for the state.
    In addition, the campaign benefits from a few key dynamics endemic to this subject:

    Youth Energy

    California is likely to have the largest turnout of voters under 40 out of all the states, an effect being driven by this initiative. Traditional predictions of the mid-term electorate makeup will not apply to California this time because of the unprecedented excitement surrounding Prop. 19. President Obama benefited from the so-called first time Obama Voters in 2008 -- and Prop 19 is going to benefit from people turning out to vote because this initiative is on the ballot.

    Sophisticated GOTV & Campus Effort

    With partner organizations like Courage Campaign, Drug Policy Alliance, Students for Sensible Drug Policy, NORML, Just Say Now, California Young Democrats, and California College Republicans, etc, phone banks are running across the country and calling thousands of voters. We are additionally partnering with coordinated field efforts, including active teams across 25 major California campuses.

    State of the Art Technologies

    The campaign's predictive dialer lets us reach 5x more voters than traditional phone banking. A series of statewide, telephone town halls have allowed us to reach tens of thousands of undecided voters in the comfort of their own homes while allowing them to pose questions directly to the campaign. At our last town hall, support surged 17 points over the course of the call.
    Yes on 19 continues to dominate in social networking, e.g. on Facebook we have 225,000 followers, more than any other political issue or candidate in California.

    Great Silent Majority

    Pollsters' 'likely voter' models undercount first-time, young and occasional voters who are most excited about 19.

    Voter Frustration

    Voters have increasingly become angrier and angrier at the establishment, and this is the most anti-establishment initiative nationally this cycle.

    Early Voting

    20-25% of the vote happened in the first ten days of absentee voting, when polls indicated 19 was ahead (and the banked votes presumably would reflect those polls).

    Paid TV

    Our first TV ad aired this week targeting women in the LA market and youth, African-Americans and Latinos elsewhere. It has received over 100K views on YouTube as well as coverage in all major media outlets, including MSNBC and Fox News Channel. Internal polls show the ad swings votes 8 points in 19's favor. Recent polls were all conducted prior to our going up on the air.

    Polls Undercount Support

    Respondents are less forthright on controversial issues and 19 performs significantly better in automated surveys than with live interviewers. Pollster Nate Silver has documented this 'reverse Bradley effect.' Support will be even higher in the privacy of a voting booth.

    Historic Precedent

    There is documented reality that marijuana reforms always under-poll and over-perform. In 2008, a Massachusetts decriminalization initiative received 14 more points in the actual ballot box than polls indicated just one week earlier.
    Together these factors put 19 in a better position to win on Election Day than is indicated by the mainstream media narrative.
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    I think it will be very close. I'm completely out of propaganda, and I had lots. It's all up to baby Jesus now. Get your lazy friends out there and make them vote!

    I look forward to taking a few tokes without having to be paranoid about it! :thumbsup:

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    #3
    Senior Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    After reading above, in a little over 24 hours, Prohibition will come to an end in California. Just like suffering through all the years of Giants torture, the wrongful government prohibition will end in the first state, and rumble from the mountains, to the prairie, to the oceans green with green.

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    #4
    Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    I've done a great deal of canvassing here in Long Beach, which is generally pretty liberal. The lion's share of support comes from young people, who are tickled to see somebody actually out there pitching the prop!

    The best line I used while talking to people was this: "Drug dealers don't ask for ID."

    That made a lot of people think twice. Even a man who told me he was "in recovery" nodded agreement.

    What we must remember is that 19 isn't the free-weed Shangri-la we'd like to see.

    It was written to PASS.


    That's the genius of it. I'd love free, local, awesome cannabis freedom free of corporate (and their puppets in government) control, but that will never happen. Get real.

    This is the first battle of a long war. Get on it and stay on it! :rastasmoke:

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    #5
    Senior Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyNilly
    I've done a great deal of canvassing...
    Good on ya, mate!

    I've tried to do my part...got 5 friends to check the Yes box who were otherwise inclined to vote No. They are all in their late 50's to early 80's. :hippy:

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    #6
    Senior Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    channel 9 news says its that close now!

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    #7
    Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneMeadow
    Good on ya, mate!

    I've tried to do my part...got 5 friends to check the Yes box who were otherwise inclined to vote No. They are all in their late 50's to early 80's. :hippy:
    It's amazing what a little calm reasoning can do, isn't it? I happened on two guys who were arguing about it just as they walked up to me. One for, one not persuaded.

    The guy for it just said "C'mon and tell him why he should vote yes!"

    I said "Who runs the marijuana market, now? Gangsters, of course, and they don't pay taxes and they'll sell it to anybody, even kids."

    "Remember prohibition? (I filled him in, with Al Capone: Violence, turf wars, the 28,000+ dead in Mexico)."

    You know the rest. I think I convinced him, and it's that sort of thing that means we've still got a chance.

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    #8
    Senior Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    Yup...when I told my friends how little of the smuggled in dope we were intercepting and how many billions it was costing us, they couldn't believe it. Then I told that that I was sick of wasting all that money and that I was going to vote yes. They all know I spent years in the military doing counterdrug work in Central and South America, so that was a real eye opener for them. The eldest of them (~82) asked me if I was really going to vote yes, and when I assured that that I was, he said, "Well, then I guess I will too."

    I could hardly believe my ears.

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    #9
    Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneMeadow
    Yup...when I told my friends how little of the smuggled in dope we were intercepting and how many billions it was costing us, they couldn't believe it. Then I told that that I was sick of wasting all that money and that I was going to vote yes. They all know I spent years in the military doing counterdrug work in Central and South America, so that was a real eye opener for them. The eldest of them (~82) asked me if I was really going to vote yes, and when I assured that that I was, he said, "Well, then I guess I will too."

    I could hardly believe my ears.
    Excellent! You're a man who would know!

    "Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result..."

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    #10
    Member

    only 2 % off on prop 19

    please everyone vote YES because weed needs to become legalized!!!


    Marijuana activists push for Cali Prop Today

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