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    #31
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    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Quote Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
    ..... and then leave it on a 10/14 on/off schedule.
    Not 12/12? Interesting to say the least. Anyone else heard of this?

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    #32
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    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    I've heard of using the shorter lighting schedule to force a stubborn plant to start flowering, but it does nothing to limit the stretch that I know of.

    If the plant is showing preflowers, am not to sure what the shorter schedule will provide, except for a few hours of missing light.

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    #33
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    The shorter schedule allows for more flowering hormone to build up so you can start the plant on its way to flowering. Once it gets into a more full bloom, switching back to 12/12 would be recommended.

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    #34
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
    I've heard of using the shorter lighting schedule to force a stubborn plant to start flowering, but it does nothing to limit the stretch that I know of.
    Well I have found an additive that will stop the stretch in other species I have. I use it to control the height on some of my stretchier sativias. Just one dose will stop it. Called Phosphoload. VERY spendy stuff, like $100 per liter. Also is not 'organic' and because of that I do not recommend this even though I use it.

    Just another tool in the tool box of cannabis growing.

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    #35
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Paclobutrazol, eh? I haven't used that stuff since I grew corn indoors!

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    #36
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Quote Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
    Paclobutrazol, eh? I haven't used that stuff since I grew corn indoors!
    Umm, don't know, not on the label anywhere.
    Fertilizer Product Information
    The above is all the registry info.
    The label says it is derived from:Potassium Nitrate,Ammonium Nitrate, Mono Potassium Phosphate.
    Made in Australia.

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    #37
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Quote Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
    Umm, don't know, not on the label anywhere.
    Fertilizer Product Information
    The above is all the registry info.
    The label says it is derived from:Potassium Nitrate,Ammonium Nitrate, Mono Potassium Phosphate.
    Made in Australia.
    See, the original phosphoload was paclobutrazol (this was about 20 years ago) while the newer stuff using that name doesn't have the chemical present at all. Just had to do some looking up. Looks like the name has been usurped (not a surprise,) and used by the rest of the industry. Trademark dilution is a bitch.

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    #38
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Quote Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
    The shorter schedule allows for more flowering hormone to build up so you can start the plant on its way to flowering. Once it gets into a more full bloom, switching back to 12/12 would be recommended.
    Back to this......
    I put this in flower, and it went 12 weeks and never got more than one flower at each node. It was about 8-10 feet long at that point (tried LST to save space).

    I never did give the phosphoload to stop growth, as real budding never happened. The mom is now over 6 months old. Those pure sativa leaves are so cool, skinny. I do appreciate the purity, but looks like I might have to dilute it to utilize it.

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    #39
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Is there any way you could set up a special "Dark room" that you could move just one clone into to extend the dark time?


    It would be a lot of work, moving the plant every day twice a day, but if it's possible and would keep the strain pure wouldn't it be kinda worth it?

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    #40
    Senior Member

    Let's pre-flower for massive growth on purpose!!

    Building a small box to accomodate one plant should indeed be doable with minimal material cost. Get it so you can adjust the light cycle just for those special strains would be a good thing to have.

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