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11-04-2010, 01:36 AM #23
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Would you buy this vertical growing unit?
hey oldmac,
Sorry I didn't mean to rub anybody the wrong way. As of now, my intent wasn't to sell this product; it's not even in production. As far as I know the next step is going to be a journal grow on a few sites like this.
Concerning aeroponics, I'm not an expert, either is the company that builds the product. I may have talked about TAG systems but I know that you're right in saying it's not true aeroponics. But, to play the devil's advocate a little, there quite a few products that are hot sellers right now that are labeled as "aeroponic" and are not. I know that the general population of growers thinks "aeroponic" when they hear there are sprayers. That is the marketing that the company is going with concerning the nutrient delivery... what doesn't confuse people. Because YES, they could advertise it as a NFT/Hydro/Faux Aero System, but that would confuse most buyers. So if they have to advertise as faux aero, then so be it.
Concerning the pump times, this systems is on for a matter of seconds too. Not that it makes it anyless faux aero, but just to clarify. In test runs, there hasn't been any problems with clogging due to an inline filter. I'm not certain of where the pump is originated from either, could be china, not sure. From what I've seen it's pretty durable unit though that's lasted through the entire R&D process.
As for the expected yield, you're right, most new and average growers will not be pulling in 0.5 oz per plant, in fact they may not be able to keep all 100 plants alive as far as I know. But for sales purposes, it will be sold under the premise that it is POSSIBLE to yield 0.5 oz per plant. And why not, it will help sell it, and it's not a lie.
If you want to see a journal grow that yielded more than .5 oz per plant from one 600w HPS light in a system with almost the exact dimensions as this units check out this link.
Heaths flooded tube vertical.
He used a flooded system with I think 14 fewer plants than this system and got 46 oz dry. It's a long journal but definitely worth the read.
Also, I noticed you said you've had 70yrs growing experience, how old are you? I mean at least 80 right? And you're hitting up these forums and growing with these new types of growing too, that's awesome for someone your age. I commend you sir or ma'am.
However, even with A LOT of experience growing under your belt, I can't really use too much of your criticism on the efficiency aspect of the unit if you haven't had any vertical growing experience (I have only assisted in a few grows myself). Yes, it's based on the same principles of growing as horizontal, but where I think people get tripped up is the spacial arrangement issue. If you've only used horizontal grow techniques your whole career as a grower then there will inevitably be some speculation into different methods.
I hope to keep these discussions clean and respectful. Thanks,
A
For the record, this company engineers and manufactures LEDs too. So they're aware of marketing hype in the industry. But what I'm doing isn't marketing hype because I haven't and will not disclose the company's name or contact info. It's just research and development procedure.
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