Quote Originally Posted by atlashomeric
well in my experience there's always someone who is an engineer of
some sort that can reverse engineer a product and find ways to make it cheaper. You can order things in china, you can spec out parts from home depot or lowes, and finally build it yourself. The bottom line is, these are not the target customers. As an example, there are people who have been buying EZ clones off the shelves for upwards of $300 dollars for a number of years now, but can you build a comparable unit for much less, yes.
This company also engineers and manufactures LEDs for horticulture, and it's the same thing with LEDs, a consumer can look at the specs on those and have it replicated for about half the cost in china even if they're specing their diodes from US or European companies. Most hydroponic/grow products cannot justify their price, they're almost always over priced, yet people are buying them more now than ever. If you can replicate something, have the time and money and know-how, then I say do it, and save a few bucks.

As far as the res size, which has come up before, 20 gallons is more than enough to provide for the unit, but it depends on the spray times, something they've figured out. And as far as the height to light coverage ratio, a 600 works fine, a 750 works better, and 2 600 watts work best. But the GPW is negatively affected after you leave the 600w mark.

There's always something to speculate on, and I'm sure all this feedback is appreciated by my buddies. But as far as the DIY aspect it concerned, I don't think that listing the ways in which you can spec, design, and build a unit for yourself is too helpful to this system as far as productivity is concerned.

Thanks for the feedback though fellas.
i like how you ask for feedback, and then when you get it you don't take it to heart. i pointed out flaw after flaw in your system and your only response was "you aren't the target market". the target market is the black market obviously. only people who sell their product with no regards for others throw money away blindly. this is a medicinal MJ site (not that all users here are), so most of us don't throw money blindly on claims alone. we like to see PROOF! and until you provide PROOF, expect someone here to challenge your claims.

by your own admission the ballast that you are selling it with is underpowered. if the bulb is, let's say, 12", then that is the height of ONE ring. so how do the other 4 get great light?

you also failed to answer all of my questions that i posted. i find it hard to believe that i reversed engineered it, as i haven't seen an engineering sample, only that shitty mock-up that looks like it was done by a 4 year old.

if you bothered to read my post i said i could find the pump for $150 full retail. if you are truly in mass-market production you aren't paying anything close to this for your pumps. i have personally worked in a hydroponics store. i KNOW first hand what the markup is. the only reason the sales are going up is because state after state is starting to allow for MMJ. just like the laws of supply and demand, the more of a product that is available, the lower the price. i can buy a aeroflo2, 60 site system for ~$800 and then add the 60 site extension for another ~$600. so riddle me again how this is a great deal. because it takes up 5 square feet? i'm still failing to see the value in this product.


-shake