My clone is dry and looks odd, plus lost its smell?

[LetsSeeYa]

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) novice

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)CFL'S
.2) Distance from tops?Hand method, or 2-4'' .
3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)Hook light w/ 426wat cfl's
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?Yea
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?no exhaust
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?4 26 watters 24/0 light cycleYour medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)Garden Magic from nursery
.8) Size of container.3 liter
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?
No, taken from outside before flowering started
Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's Ph before adjusting?Tap 7.2
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)ph pen
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)Nutes knock it down to 6.7
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.6-4-4 Fox Farm GROW BIG. I water when needed and alternate ferts. 2 tsp per gal.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?[B]About every other day, depends on pot weight. Water till run off/B]
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)Nope
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?Stays at around 6.7-6.8
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?6.7. not sure
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?No

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?Indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut?8'x3' under stairway
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?Not sure, i re-potted 3 weeks ago and in the middle of moving room to new location. So im only trying to keep her alive an put some size on her for when new set up is finished
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?Non

Your strain: NL#5 Clone
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)Sativa
24) From seeds or clones?Clone
25) Is this an autoflower strain?No

I had this clone by my bed under a cfl to baby it with sun through the day and cfl at night to also get it rooted well. Since iv moved it under more light and a re pot the smell is gone and the leaves feel dry? When it was up here you only need to be near it and you could catch the sweet smell from it, but nothing now? Iv never seen or read about what could be the issue. My grow room is half there as im moving it, thats why its on 24/0 and my thermometer isn't there. Its pretty stable environment from the time i used the space, so temps should be ok and i have a fan moving air. But if i would guess, id think i am cooking it, but if anything the light is to far away as you can see its stretching now. But will get a reading on the temps when i can, its in a place i cant get to, but not for longas the room is moving to a place i can use.

If anyone has an idea, i sure would appreciate the help. I didn't get any of this outside and is my favorite strain to smoke so far at least. The stuff is so sweet. After looking at Canni's Scrog, i am thinking about using the method. Im just thinking il get a better yield. And i could burn this all day. Bla Bla Bla, sorry:wtf:

You can see the white looking appearance in between the veins of the leaves. Also there is a new branch with its newly grown foliage just dried up and crisp.:wtf:



Thanks again:rasta:

LetsSeeYa Reviewed by LetsSeeYa on 10-24-2010. My clone is dry and looks odd, plus lost its smell? What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) novice Your Equipment: .1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)CFL'S .2) Distance from tops?Hand method, or 2-4'' . 3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)Hook light w/ 426wat cfl's .4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?Yea .5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?no exhaust .6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and Rating: 5

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what do the roots look like LSY? when did you last transplant?

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[canniwhatsis]

Gads bro!

When you said you were trying to keep a clone alive I didn't think it was that bad! She looks pretty ruff,

Could be over feeding causing lockout?

Also might try and lower the PH a little more. I try to keep my inbound around 6.0-6.2 as soil (Specially fresh soil) buffers the PH up.

She seems a bit big to be kept under 4 CFL's, try and get that new room up and running ASAP!

[LetsSeeYa]

what do the roots look like LSY? when did you last transplant?

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You know when i transplanted i didn't want to brake up the soil, but i didn't see any roots sticking out to its old pot. Had it been a established plant i might have broke it up, but this was my first clone attempt, with this one being the only one that made it, i didn't want to risk anything. I figured the plant was growing, so i have roots supporting the plant? And the way it wiggled i could tell the roots were not plentiful. But i was getting new growth and thought the roots would catch up. It had small worms under the leaves, but thought i got rid of them. They were small white caterpillars, they look like. I had it close and watched it grow, so i just removed them as i saw them. I also hit it with some stuff i used outside for bug control, just in case there might have been eggs in the soil. But im sure it did start up here, but now that its 5x bigger, its much worse. I didn't see the bugs on it today as it was the first thing i thought of. The leaves feel dry to the touch, but im still getting new growth, you think i just dont have the roots to support the plant? Maybe the new growth is living off the older foliage? Just a stab in the dark ideas:wtf:



Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

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when did you transplant? she's definitely stressed. see all the odd growth uptop?

what's the makeup of the soil?


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[LetsSeeYa]

when did you transplant? she's definitely stressed. see all the odd growth uptop?

what's the makeup of the soil?


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Well that growth could be from the fact that its a clone from a re vegged plant. My bad. So the plant is close to a year old, at least the mother was. Not sure it mattered or not. And its growth is similar to the mother, which was killed by the virus, well and me running over it many times, lol. Its about 50-50 good potting soil with perlite i got at my nursery. 5 bucks for 5 gallons of perlite, iv been using it a lot after my seeds almost drowned.

I transplanted about 2.5-3 weeks ago.



:rasta:

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how big was it when you started re-vegging it? a virus killed the previous version of this plant? it looks like it was producing 5 bladed leaves before.


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[LetsSeeYa]

Gads bro!

When you said you were trying to keep a clone alive I didn't think it was that bad! She looks pretty ruff,

Could be over feeding causing lockout?

Also might try and lower the PH a little more. I try to keep my inbound around 6.0-6.2 as soil (Specially fresh soil) buffers the PH up.

She seems a bit big to be kept under 4 CFL's, try and get that new room up and running ASAP!

Hey Canni, oh yeah, thats what i said im trying to keep my first ever clone alive. I only started 2 tbs per gallon. When i had it bed side, i fed only 1/2 tbs then to 1 and today 2 tbs per feeding. About every 3 days and if anything it might run dry more so then an over water. Could be a contributer to the problem. Iv seen a lotta people use dooms and mist, which i didn't do any. Just root tone with prayer:thumbsup:. Its a strain i want to keep going and my seeds are mixed with :thumbsup:Skunk and NL X Skunk. And i enjoy the NL big time, which this clone is it. The cfl set up is close to 5,000 lumens and i have 3, but one hanging over this plant is perfect. I used them last year to do my first indoor and was very pleased with my product. And the plants gave me the re vegs i did this summer. There are some nug pics in the Sig, just look 3 to 4 pages before the end, it was killer.

The new room needs to happen your so right, but im fighting over the room i want. Sucks, but il win, i always do in the end. Its just that i dont have time to fuck around here if i want it done right. I have a great opportunity, but if i dont get my shit ready, il loose out on it. So oh i here ya on the move:thumbsup:for sure bro.



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[LetsSeeYa]

how big was it when you started re-vegging it? a virus killed the previous version of this plant? it looks like it was producing 5 bladed leaves before.


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If was small, maybe 4-5''. And yeah something did kill the mother, but i got this before signs of it, i freaking hope man. No it pretty much started out with 1 finger then went to 3 and so on, but i guess it might have being as tho it came from a plant that had been re vegged. But the mother i thought has not in flower yet, but that plant really went crazy during the re veg. The mother grew odd before it got sick. But this stuff isn't what the mother had, the other stuff made fingers yellow one at a time till the whole leaf was yellow. These leaves are dry and discolored in the veins of the leaf, but new growth has not been slowed. Its grown twice the size since iv put it under these lights. The outdoor mother would get a black spot first, then the yellowing would begin. Not sure if being indoors would ca use different side effects of that crap i had out there.



:rasta:

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it apperas to be a deficiency. how old is the plant? how long has it been receiving nutes?
you probably should flush your soil and check your runoff. i'm wondering about the soil.

that's where i would start.


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