Feedback Needed on Producer Application,

[alfonso2002]

Mimbres The Articles of incorporation sound great But I think they will not be workable I know that you would be willing to donate your time but will not last forever. as for the pay for grower no 15.00 an hour would be too low of pay for someone that can produce. I have no idea what total production yearly would be but would think that a 1/4 of that production Income would not be to much to pay labor involved in that production and only 2 paid positions can't be done too much work is involved Then there are all the other costs.I also think that a director would have to be a paid position. The Secretary/Treasurer also a paid position you know better than me how much production costs would be do you have any numbers as far as cash flow would be. but I do think your model would be a great way to try and lower costs for the patients of NMMCP. the numbers would have to jive. I thank you for at least trying to do something different.I don't think the current models will ever do anything to lower cost for the patients in the program.Still I think the best thing would be for the patients in the Program to invest time and money and learn to GROW YOUR OWN MEDS .
PS I would be willing to donate My time to do something like this.

[MimbresValley]

yeah, I need to work on the wording for the advisory board, the executive board would run the company as outlined in the articles of incorporation and bylaws and can not deviate from the gameplant setforth, now to change the bylaws or articles of incorporation, the executive board would have to get approval from the advisory board(the patients). This sets up some checks and balances between both patients and producer.

At harvest time, the grower and his security guard cut down everything, the majority of cannabis is will just have the fan leaves removed,but will still need to be manicured, there would also be a small amount the is manicured for people who would be unable to trim it themselves due to health issues.
I think most people who are on a fixed income would rather get 1.5 grams for 4.00$ then pay 13.00$ for 1.0 of trimmed bud.
Grams would be sold fat to offshoot the extra trim left on the bud(which some companies even charge for)

The growers Security would also distribute the cannabis.

And the end of harvest I would like patients who are registered with the company, to have the option to come volunter to help with trimming or cleaning/ or possibly pay them, it would be nice if the patients who want to help could make a little money on the side.

whats everyones opinion, should the patients volunteer for trimming, or be paid/given a credit towards cannabis.

Still working out the details, looking for input from fellow patients =)

To help patients as well, I think CANNABIS AT COST should do instructional videos on its website, that patients can view, with videos and instructions, the company is also to furnish
CANNABIS AT COST is to distribute nonrooted cuttings for free of mothers plants, and rooted cuttings shall no be more than 10.00$.
CANNABIS AT COST SHALL also setup a small area for breeding, and will give away seeds to patients for free, when you breed a cannabis plant, you get thousands of seeds.

alfonso, do you think 20.00$ would be better for the grower, and 15.00$ for security?
On the business side of it, I would have to hire an accountant, but he would be separate from the company, and not a direct employee.

I personally don't envision any problems with actually managing or running the grow itself with just two people, the most work would actually be the trimming and manicuring.
I can honestly say I spend more time trimming my cannabis at the end of each harvest, than it even takes me to grow the stuff,lol.

Trimming is long tedious work. but that labor is only going to be needed once every 4 months. so if the patients could pick up some of the extra slack, things would be sweet.
This model may not last once i leave, but ohwell there will be other producers doing it the current way, im not saying they should change, and if this idea does take maybe other like minded indivduals like myself will keep it going, or someone else will start a similar company.

Everything else with my experience should be pretty routine, I can also teach a variety of patients, and maybe when I leave, a patient who I have taught can take over the position.

[MimbresValley]

With all the needed equipment, and a large enough place, a realistic estimate I have based of previous grows I have done, I should be able to harvest 432 pounds a year within a perfect grow room with a decent yielding strain and everything I need at my fingertips.

But it will take the company awhile to get to that point at least a couple years, first harvest will probably be right around 7 pounds, and each harvest a % of money as voted on by the advisory board, will be set towards updating the grow room.
The first grow I will volunteer my own equipment to keep start up costs down, and 7 pounds is about what I could produce with the equipment I could spare.
And realistically each harvest if money is invested in equipment I could double the harvest until hitting the 432 lbs a year, which would most likely be the most I could ever produce in a year. This is not a fairy tale number, this is based of previous grows I have done, and a very realistic expectation for me, if I have everything I need.

Doc, I really do hope to be a breath of fresh air in this industry.

Thank You.

[MimbresValley]

Already have 1 volunateer, WooOT!!!
Alfonso stepping up to help, and showing Deming whats up!
:thumbsup:

Im stoked:rastasmoke:

[MimbresValley]

A 168 views since yesterday! wow!

[ScaredasHell]

I wonder how you got the 432 lbs. per year. Assuming you harvest 6 times per year (around every 8 weeks), you yould need to harvest 72 lbs. from 95 plants. And, you would have to "cheat" (to have clones in place, to immediately replace harvested plants, for a total of 190 plants on-site). In other words, it seems you would have to have the 95 clones elsewhere, or hidden? (not allowed). Finally, 72 lbs. / 95 plants means you would have to have each plant yield, on average, .76 lbs. (little over 12 oz.'s) per plant. I think it might be done, with a huge up-front investment, and a very dedicated grower. Good luck.

[MimbresValley]

well if you had a veg room, and a flower room, you could have 6 harvests a year with a indica hybrid strain.
So lets say 47 plants in the flower room, 47in the veg clone room,
If at each harvest I pull 1.5lbs per plant each harvest.
thats 1.5lbs x 47plants =70.5lbs each harvest, times 6 harvests equal 423 pounds.
So I guess I meant to say 423 not 432.

The trimming and manicuring would be the most labor hands down.

[MimbresValley]

If you were to flower all 94 plants at once, you would only harvest 3 times a year, each plant would have to be vegged two months, then flowered two months two get 1.5 lbs per plant. either way it would end up with 423 pounds.
And I said 423 would have to be worked up too, first harvest would be about 7 lbs, next harvest 14, harvest after that 28, thus slowly paying for costs, instead of a huge upfront investment

Its just more cost effective having two separate rooms, one for veg and one for flower.

[DrBreeze]

This outline has little regulation as far as 3rd party, overall the idea is nice and all, but it is completely based on speculation. I know you are trying to help the masses, but there is no doubt in my mind that the number 1 way to get meds is from self-grow and dispensaries.

What should really be pushed is the insurance acceptance of the medication. That would be the only real way to get lower prices to the masses.

[MimbresValley]

There is no need for a 3rd party regulator in this model, only in the current model being employeed.
In this model everything is set in stone in the articles of incorporation and the bylaws there is no speculation, the bylaws can not be changed without the permission of the patients, so lets say down the road someone wants to change it so the president is getting his hand in the money, the patients would have to approve this.
This sets up checks and balances.


Now the already approved producers, they could vote to pay the president 200,000.00$ a year, and the patients would have no say in the matter.