Tuxy's grow log.

[Shovelhandle]

yep, lookin at them younguns makes me wanna pop some seeds. :hippy:

[WhiteTux]

Shov, i was reading through your grows.. and.. you're a pro .. Not fair.. lol.

[WhiteTux]

Hey, sorry for so many posts. Trying to get my shiz together for this weekend so i know what i'm going to buy. I need to purchase some sort of vent fan and filter.. I found combos on ebay, but i dont know what i should get.. reading over the forums on ideas for room setups, i need to purchase something that will move at least 320 cfm. (big room). But i wasn't sure what brands to go with.. vortex seems to have strong fans, but they run a little expensive.. the things i found on ebay were this combo of fan and filter 6" CARBON FILTER FAN COMBO inline odor control scrubber - eBay (item 150508146282 end time Oct-22-10 12:54:44 PDT) and this vortex fan 6" Vortex Centrifugal Inline Exhaust Fan Duct Blower - eBay (item 400083061869 end time Oct-28-10 19:39:04 PDT)

I'm also planning to follow advice and buy some fluos, i already have a pretty good idea of what i'm going to do there. But, any specific item suggestions are welcome. I was told 6500k fluos would work well. Pretty soon i need to buy some different pots.. The peat pots they are in now seem to be letting moisture out extremely quickly. I have to water them every day.
Now, at some point for the light i need to transfer to HID(MH and HPS) but i'm not sure if i should do that now, or wait until they get larger?

Gotta buy a heater too.. Gets kinda chilly down there during the night. I think if i were to go ahead and purchase an HID light, the temp might not be so much of a problem, but, like i said. I dont know if i should go HID or fluo, or maybe both?

[canniwhatsis]

Optimum temps are mid to high seventy's for most strains. Of course they will tolerate anything above freezing, and below 100f but growth slows down. If it's comfy for you your plants will probably like it.


Welcome to the show! Good luck!


P.S. That seems like quite a few plants,... I know from seed you've got to weed out males and hermies,.... but your gonna need a LOT of light to flower them even if you only let them get a few nodes high before kicking 12/12.

[WhiteTux]

Optimum temps are mid to high seventy's for most strains. Of course they will tolerate anything above freezing, and below 100f but growth slows down. If it's comfy for you your plants will probably like it.


Welcome to the show! Good luck!


P.S. That seems like quite a few plants,... I know from seed you've got to weed out males and hermies,.... but your gonna need a LOT of light to flower them even if you only let them get a few nodes high before kicking 12/12.

How much light do you think for flower?

[canniwhatsis]

First off lets see if my count is correct,... you've got 9 that are growing they're 2nd nodes and 16 that seem to be about a week behind, that are under the floro tubes?

So 25 plants.


Lets assume all are girls, and you let them vege for a month getting about 9" tall (under normal lighting which is WAY more intense than the 2 tubes I see) SOG style.

Each will need around a square foot of space when you kick the lights,.... so a 5x5' space,... 600w HPS is generally considered the minimum for a space of about 4x4' to 6x6' so it would work, but each plant would be low yeild, perhaps 1/4 oz dried/cured. If your looking for more per plant your looking at more wattage!


CFL's and floro tubes if done right you could get away with probably around 400 total actual watts for the same 5x5' space in a SOG grow, but again if you want more yield, your gonna need more light/wattage!


You have a month to 2 months tops to do your reading and decide how you want to spend your money for this investment.



If this is for personal use, I'd look for/ try to set up a 3x3 tent with circulation and ventilation for a 400w HPS and flower 4 to 6 plants at a time once they hit a height of around 18-24" while veging under floro's elsewhere to the desired height.


Your results may vary but I'm pulling bi-monthly harvests of 1.5-2 oz (finished) out of around half that size area under the same wattage!

You could easily harvest every other week a plant that size from a 3x3 area.


Pic speaks for itself. :jointsmile:

[WhiteTux]

So, with cfl would you suggest 400 ACTUAL watts? like, 26 x 15=~390? or like, 4 100 watt equivalents? Because cfl doesnt really seem to be too expensive, so i'd probably go that route, unless you'd think i'd get a better yield out of hid? Either way, i understand i need a lot more light. I just didnt expect them to grow this fast.. Wasn't as prepared as i thought i was

And, SOG is what i was planning to go with. That seems to be the best way to do it.(from what i've read).
I also currently have an old street light that can power a 400 w hid, could it be used in this situation, as long as i had it held up securely, in cunjunction with some cfl? or would it be a bad idea to combine them?

As for the tent for flowering, that's what i figured i'd do. Just in an area of that room. I figured i'd just cut it in half .

[canniwhatsis]

Going on the assumption that my count is correct, yes a blend of 400w floro tubes and CFL's might be able to do it.


Lets go with reality,... You will NOT get 100% female, and ALL of them need to be sexed before flowering!

Your only gonna get 50% Fem if your lucky even from reputable breeders,... likely a higher percentage of hermi's from bag seed, but who knows?

Where did you get your seeds? And what strain are they? who's the breeder? Are they femmed?

There's a lot of work ahead of you, but you look to be on the right track! :jointsmile:

[WhiteTux]

i actually have 28, and i was figuring on 14 fems. And i figure i'll do early sexing at like 8 inches, does that seem alright to you? Seeds came from a vendor i believe in cali. It's trainwreck(as labeled on the bag). That's what i'm hoping for. Not femmed that i know of. I didnt purchase them. A relative did. lol.

What i'm looking at on ebay right now (these) i was figuring on buying 2 of them for now, and then adding on as i go. they produce 10,000 lumens and are 6500k. And then i figured i'd purchase some cfl grow lights from them as well. I dont really know how their prices compare to lowes and that sort.. but, at lest this way i'm not making a trip to another town to try to find something that might not even be there.. These are the cfl they have for sale. 6400k, and 2,400 lumens a piece. They also sell them as bloom bulbs that are 2700k i think. Here those are. I figured for my first purchase i'd get two of the t5's, and then start placing the cfls around as i got the money for them.. do you think that would work okay?

[WhiteTux]

Well. I think i have mold growing on my peat pots.. And about the only thing i could do was spread them out.. i dont have any other pots to put them in... I also switched the taller plants to a different light.. they now have 4 40 watt 4 foot bulbs about 1 inch away from them... I'm hoping that will stop the stretching.. that'd be nice.. it's about my only option right now.. Tomorrow i should be going shopping for new lights. Might just go with a lot of cfl mounted on a board that i can adjust the height of. It's about the cheapest way to do this effectively.. (or, what i think should be effectively). More pictures and shiz tomorrow.

--Tux