need help ASAP!!

[dabomba]

need some tips please im not sure if this is ph,overwatering,over nutrients,or under watering sorry if you cannot see pictures...


pic 1-curvie folding up water leafs on top

pic 2-yellowish spottings

pic 3- drooping down purple stems

pic 4-curling down fan leafs on top

dabomba Reviewed by dabomba on 10-21-2010. need help ASAP!! need some tips please im not sure if this is ph,overwatering,over nutrients,or under watering sorry if you cannot see pictures... pic 1-curvie folding up water leafs on top pic 2-yellowish spottings pic 3- drooping down purple stems pic 4-curling down fan leafs on top Rating: 5

[dabomba]

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)
novice

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
mh 400watt
.2) Distance from tops?
2 feet
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) air cooled
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?yes
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?400watt 18/6

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
fox farm ocean forest
.8) Size of container. 1 gallon
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? somthing but i dont remember what there called its brown and you start them in it

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?
tap water
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...) havnt yet
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...) nothing
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. fox farm grow big 2 tbs per gallon every other watering
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? 2/10s per gallon on each plant
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) nope
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? not sure
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? dont know
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?no

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut? room
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? 65/61 on/56/59 off?
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? fruit flys and millipeds

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) green crack and blue berry thinking sativa
24) From seeds or clones?seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no

[headshake]

you don't know the pH.....so it's more than likely a pH issue. first step, get a way to test pH. you can get by with an aquarium test kit for a little while. you should be able to find one for $7 or so. in other advice is worthless at this point and time.


-shake

[dabomba]

ph is 6.6 i got the tester the other day,still having issues with my plants never had this problem before there growth is very slow only about a foot into veg at about 6 weeks i topped them about 2 weeks ago they only grew maybe 2-4 inchs from that point not sure whats going on ph is fine...

[headshake]

ph is 6.6 i got the tester the other day,still having issues with my plants never had this problem before there growth is very slow only about a foot into veg at about 6 weeks i topped them about 2 weeks ago they only grew maybe 2-4 inchs from that point not sure whats going on ph is fine...

what PH measures 6.6? ingoing? runoff? and just because it checks good now doesn't mean it's been good. problems (as well as remedies) take about 7-10 days to get signs of, so it just didn't happen over night. you've been feeding without ever knowing the pH.


-shake

[Forwhat420]

I would be willing to bet money that you need to transplant up to a bigger pot. Six weeks veg in a one gallon pot means your roots are bound. Just my 2 cents...

[Slevinkal]

ph is 6.6 i got the tester the other day,still having issues with my plants never had this problem before there growth is very slow only about a foot into veg at about 6 weeks i topped them about 2 weeks ago they only grew maybe 2-4 inchs from that point not sure whats going on ph is fine...

I topped two of mine and clipped fan leaves and they basically stopped getting taller for 10 days or so, barely no growth up top at all but they sure did thicken out a lot. Most of the side growth had reached the tops before they started growing taller again. Since then they were feed nutes and in the past three days I've had to raise my lights every day.

I would be willing to bet money that you need to transplant up to a bigger pot. Six weeks veg in a one gallon pot means your roots are bound. Just my 2 cents...

I had three plants in in one gallon pots for 8 weeks and this is the result. Yes, they're hitting the walls but not near to a true rootbound.

[canniwhatsis]

I'm with shake on this one,... looks like PH issues.

6.6 is a bit high, by my experience the FFOF soil will buffer it up about 1-1.3, so your soil runoff will be closer to 7.7-7.9. I have no clue if that's good bad or indifferent,... but I shoot for 6.0 inbound and haven't seen any problems with the 7.0 outbound.

Try and lower your inbound PH to 6.0 and don't bother testing outbound with "Color" test's, the soil particles and nutes will skew the results.


Thinking of which, I need to calibrate my pen.................

[WashougalWonder]

I think the buffers in the OF have been used. YOU NEED TO CHECK PH. (PH can vary from day to day in tap water over 2 full points at my house!)

I agree with possible root bound.

Instead of fertilizer repot to larger container with more fertilizer...i.e., Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil, which you are already using.

They look nitrogen toxic to me in the pictures also. Other than that, the form looks like you are doing a good job..........Move the light a little closer too.

[dabomba]

thanks all for your reply's but first of all the i use the same tap water and let it sit in the room from the time i fill it till the time i water it,useally 3-4 days depending on how much moisture i can feel with 1 inch of my finger so the ph should be good i i believe to myself its over nutrients i been giving 2 table spoons every watering not teaspoons cant believe i could mess that up:wtf: but im moving them into 7 gallon gro bags this weekend im going to move them to the floor and the size of my room is large for just a 400 watt mh so i took the smallest ones and just tossed them.but the thing is they were all 100% healthy untill i topped them then i started having the problems the leaves on a few are still turning yellow in spots and 1 had a tip of brown?im going to reduce the nutrients from now till flower im going to just give them regular water hopfully they will become healthy but its not ph bcuz 60% of my babys are 100% healthy witch makes 0 sense at all? but i will try a few things and hope for the best