Harvest Question - Trich Colors

[WashougalWonder]

1. Yes, flowering should be more than 40 days. Trichomes age differently just like leaves do and may in some areas turn colors. It is apparent you have few trichomes as you can count them>???? That is the impression I receive anyhow. Heck you should have so many that counting is out of the question. I see this as some other sort of issue in the plant.

2. Nitrogen bearing nutes will leave a very nasty taste in product unless fully flushed. Just get some Fox Farm Ocean Forest. Shy away from production potting mixes as they have high N additives, which really isn't needed in flower.

3. Light allows the plant to nourish itself and grow. You can grow awesome weed if you use enough of and the right kind of light. You still need a good medium such as Fox Farms OF. Not too much water. Proper timing of lights, enough air, and you shouldn't need any nutrients, just repot every 3 weeks with a size up pot and more OF.

LIGHT HPS for flower At least 400 W 1 foot away from the closest top. Maybe 16 inches to be safe if heat issues occur. Air circulation is important too

[Probst]

1. Yes, flowering should be more than 40 days. Trichomes age differently just like leaves do and may in some areas turn colors. It is apparent you have few trichomes as you can count them>???? That is the impression I receive anyhow. Heck you should have so many that counting is out of the question. I see this as some other sort of issue in the plant.

That's what I thought. Yes, as I explained I can see the trichomes very well, a lot of them are actually already cloudy, but some are still clear, and a about a dozen across the plant are amber. But yes, there are A LOT of tricomes.

2. Nitrogen bearing nutes will leave a very nasty taste in product unless fully flushed. Just get some Fox Farm Ocean Forest. Shy away from production potting mixes as they have high N additives, which really isn't needed in flower.

Yes, I've got a bag of Schultz timed released ferts soil on one plant, the other is using organic soil with no additives other than limestone, etc for ph balance, and perlite for drainage. (I've never had a problem so far with the Schultz soil, contrary to what a lot of people say about it. I'll change out the soil during flowering to get rid of the nitrogen to get bad taste out.)

3. Light allows the plant to nourish itself and grow. You can grow awesome weed if you use enough of and the right kind of light. You still need a good medium such as Fox Farms OF. Not too much water. Proper timing of lights, enough air, and you shouldn't need any nutrients, just repot every 3 weeks with a size up pot and more OF.

I've been doing 12/12 for a little over 2 weeks now. The plants seem to be developing some nice trichs, even the plant in the scultz timed release, which I will soon switch out for the other organic soil that I bought locally from a place that specializes in gardening. I should probably repot to two gallon containers.

LIGHT HPS for flower At least 400 W 1 foot away from the closest top. Maybe 16 inches to be safe if heat issues occur. Air circulation is important too

I'm only growing two plants for personal use, I'm not trying to get anything over an ounce or two. As this is my first grow, I don't expect amazing numbers, or huge buds. I'm growing in a closet space, and there is now way I can afford a HPS system, I have been growing CFL's because it is cheaper. I just need to know how much more wattage I should expect to get for the plants. I have 100Watts right now, 20watts in 65k, and 40watts in 20K spectrum respectively. My temperatures have remained at 75-85 degrees Fahrenheit, and nothing more, nothing less. Humidity is around 30-40%. I have two fans running, one intake that pushes air through, and one out-take that pulls it out.

I'm simply trying to figure out since I have cloudy trichomes at 2 weeks, what this means, and should I try to harvest a little. Or should I get more lighting and keep trying to grow it bigger. My plants are small and have remained at 8" since I have induced flowering as I was told they would triple in size, which would roughly put them a little less than 3 feet, which is the height I have in my grow space.

I know this is a lot of information and a lot to read, and I appreciate everything everyone has suggested and talked about in this thread. Any further help would be greatly appreciated!

[WashougalWonder]

Any harvest now, if this plant is healthy would stress it, I don't think they are healthy, but base my statement on words on a forum and a gut feeling they are stressed.

It doesn't matter if you plan on doing lots of grows, you want good meds, you have to pay the li8ghting price, and HID is THE way to go, period. Certainly folks will argue that, I don't care. Proof is in the pudding, and the end result as a product is what is important.

Sounds like this is more of just an experiment, actually. At 2 weeks I would not expect very many trichomes, and I never bother to look at them so early, touching them destroys them. I be getting shakey in my old age.:stoned:

How about some pictures?

[Probst]

Any harvest now, if this plant is healthy would stress it, I don't think they are healthy, but base my statement on words on a forum and a gut feeling they are stressed.

It doesn't matter if you plan on doing lots of grows, you want good meds, you have to pay the li8ghting price, and HID is THE way to go, period. Certainly folks will argue that, I don't care. Proof is in the pudding, and the end result as a product is what is important.

Sounds like this is more of just an experiment, actually. At 2 weeks I would not expect very many trichomes, and I never bother to look at them so early, touching them destroys them. I be getting shakey in my old age.:stoned:

How about some pictures?

I honestly didn't invest much to begin with because the seeds were over a year old from some bagseed. I had very little expectation that they would actually grow, let alone get to this stage. The plant is telling me it's near harvest, but people on the forums are telling me otherwise, which I am torn.
I can't supply pictures at this time, but I have found a picture on the Internet which closely resembles what my plant's trichomes look like, and one that looks similar to my plant, but mine has more orange pistils on it, and roughly the same shade of green. The leaves look about the same too. The trichomes are about the same. I'm trying to learn as much as I can, so when I invest in the future to actually grow my own so I always have some medication, that I can use when I need it. I know that HID is the way to go to get great looking plants, and intense yeilds, however I am only able to go CFL at the time being. What wattage and how many bulbs should I invest if I need more lighting if this plant is not near finished.

[H6251687]

you have a bud like this after 2 weeks?
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How old are the plants? how long did you veggie?

[Probst]

you have a bud like this after 2 weeks?
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How old are the plants? how long did you veggie?

The plants total are about 2 months old. I vegged them for about a month and a half, and now they've been flowering for two weeks. I stopped vegging them when they hit about 8" tall from the top of the soil because I expected them to 'triple in height' as I've read on countless forums/grow books, that never happened. Could just be freak genetics.. the seeds were about a year old when I planted them, I kept them stored in a little box, the kind that jewelry comes in.

When the plant began to show signs of trichomes, and budding, I began to trim the larger fan leaves allowing more light to actually hit the buds and the small leaves that were around them. Maybe this could have pushed maturity, and stimulated trich/bud growth?

[Slevinkal]

Since you're using CFLs I'd say the more the merrier.

Get some Y adapters and throw at least two more, if not four more bulbs in there.

HD has some 40w 2700k 550 lummen CFLs in a four pack for about 6 bucks, personally I'd look into that...

EDIT: And, hang the bulbs low so that plenty of light penetrates into the sides of the plants.

[Probst]

Sweet, I'll have to check them out!

[brainfood33]

The only explanation that I can muster up for what you are saying is that the plants are an auto flowering strain.

Can you please confirm:

Were there any signs of flowering/budding before you switched to 12/12?
If so, it is definitely an auto-flower strain and you should therefore keep it at 18/6 or with even more lights on time.

You compared the buds you have to that pic you found on the net of a big fat juicy bud.
This I would safely say is impossible for a non auto-flower strain that has only been on 12/12 for 2 weeks.

This might also explain why your plants haven't had a stretch of any description since you switched from veg.

[Probst]

The only explanation that I can muster up for what you are saying is that the plants are an auto flowering strain.

Can you please confirm:

Were there any signs of flowering/budding before you switched to 12/12?
If so, it is definitely an auto-flower strain and you should therefore keep it at 18/6 or with even more lights on time.

You compared the buds you have to that pic you found on the net of a big fat juicy bud.
This I would safely say is impossible for a non auto-flower strain that has only been on 12/12 for 2 weeks.

This might also explain why your plants haven't had a stretch of any description since you switched from veg.

This would make a lot of sense. I have no idea what strain it is, or even what species of cannabis. I have yet to determine sativa, indica, or ruderalis. The seeds came from a bag that I got up north, near Minneapolis. Maybe they came from Canada? The only sign of pre-flower that I could think of is when I started 12/12 was that I began to see pistils. That was two weeks ago. I am not sure if this is a sign of auto-flowering as I have no experience with them. Is there a way to determine if exactly they are? Will changing the cycle now stress them worse than they already are?