Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper

[mustangwomyn]

TOM TANCREDO is now making National News--he was on Heraldo last Sunday and tonight will be on the O'reilly Factor (Fox news). If he wins this race it will be the biggest upset in this election cycle let alone this state.

Now--I know many of you are turned off on Tancredo--because of his hard line stance on illegal immigration in this state.

Our costs alone per year in Colorado for illegal immigration is 1.1 BILLION dollars and our deficit strangely enough is currently around 1.4 BILLION dollars.

Cost of Illegal Immigration in Colorado

Since we are a "balanced budget" state--and we have Tabor laws restricting state government from raising taxes--unless we vote for them--CUTS will be made to meet our budget. Education--Medicade--and other govenment services that provide to our legal citizens--is being taken up by illegals in this state.

So my final point is: If you don't mind sacrificing education--Medicade and other programs and paying out 1.1 BILLION dollars on average per year for illegals--then go ahead and vote for Hickenlooper. Because he's not going to do anything about it.

If it bothers you that you are paying 1.1 BILLION dollars on average per year for illegals--then you probably should vote for Tom Tancredo.

It has a hell of a lot more to with than Immigration, the guy is a nut case.

[donniedorko]

You say that about TABOR as if you're frustrated by its limitations, but as a right winger shouldn't that be a sacred cow for you?

I don't know much about FAIR so can't say whether or not their data is trustworthy. But generally when a group has a stated goal (in their case reducing immigration, legal or otherwise) I'm skeptical. I'll look around later and see if I can find something non-partisan. Right off the bat, though, I wonder if they gave the "illegals" credit for the taxes their generally do pay and never receive benefit from, such as Social Security.

With a name like rightwinger, I'm guessing this was posted in a moderate tone to try and win over moderates. Most wingers, after all, would probably want to do away with most of the services that immigrants might be a drain on.

[cologrower420]

It has a hell of a lot more to with than Immigration, the guy is a nut case.

Like anyone on the 'left' is any better.

It speaks to the larger issue of a two party system. Until enough people get pissed at partisan politics, no politician will make it 'easier' to elect someone who isn't a dem or repub. They are interested in keeping their jobs and their lobbying dollars, not the good of the people.

I'm independent but have never voted democrat, but I hope the repubs fail miserably here, and maybe with minority status they'll start to get the idea.

It's frustrating looking at the repubs dealing with the maes situation. The people voted for him, and now it's obvious he can't beat hick, so now the right is doing everything it can to get someone else on the ballot, see:tancredo. Obviously if voters wanted a different candidate they would have voted for them. To blatantly go against the wishes of voters is absurd to me, just like the prosecutors in cali and ericholder, who say they'll continue to arrest marijuana users even if prop19 passes.

But you should be hating all politicians, not just the right. Many on the left are responsible for the issues you face with regards to your healthcare, don't act like anyone is on 'our side' as patients.

[mustangwomyn]

Like anyone on the 'left' is any better.

It speaks to the larger issue of a two party system. Until enough people get pissed at partisan politics, no politician will make it 'easier' to elect someone who isn't a dem or repub. They are interested in keeping their jobs and their lobbying dollars, not the good of the people.

I'm independent but have never voted democrat, but I hope the repubs fail miserably here, and maybe with minority status they'll start to get the idea.

It's frustrating looking at the repubs dealing with the maes situation. The people voted for him, and now it's obvious he can't beat hick, so now the right is doing everything it can to get someone else on the ballot, see:tancredo. Obviously if voters wanted a different candidate they would have voted for them. To blatantly go against the wishes of voters is absurd to me, just like the prosecutors in cali and ericholder, who say they'll continue to arrest marijuana users even if prop19 passes.

But you should be hating all politicians, not just the right. Many on the left are responsible for the issues you face with regards to your healthcare, don't act like anyone is on 'our side' as patients.

:wtf4:

[ColoMtnRunner]

Tancredo will never legalize pot. He will most likely regulate it even more.

As far as immigration, I can't tell an illegal from a legal. They came here because life is better then where they were before. Nobody should be a criminal for that. Looks like a license to discriminate to me.

Dean - O

[senorx12562]

My independent vote goes to Hickenlooper. The best all around candidate.
I stopped voting for single issue politicians yrs. ago. :jointsmile:

I am definitely a single issue voter, and that issue is Liberty. Break it down any way you want, the more free we are, the better off we are, and the more government there is, the less free we are. Of course, with freedom comes responsibility, but that's the price, and a small price it is. I've voted for every libertarian available in every election for 30 years, and will do so until the day I die. Tancredo is a nativist and protectionist fool, although otherwise the best of the "major party" candidates, Maes is a moron, and Hickenlooper is a socialist. What's a thinking man to do? Whatever I can get away with that doesn't hurt anyone else. Don't tread on me.

[denverbear]

Vote Tancredo/Miller to keep Hick out


From Rocky Mountain Gun Owners PAC

Governor - Though we've remained silent in this topsy turvy race until now, RMGO PAC has no choice but to endorse Tom Tancredo/Pat Miller for Governor/Lt. Gov.

With Republican nominee Dan Maes polling in single digits, and frothing-at-the-mouth anti-gunner John Hickenlooper (he's a member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns) hoping to benefit from the split within the GOP, we can't remain silent on this close race. We're not averse to controversy.

Here's what pushed us over the edge: the very first person Dan Maes chose to put on his staff (a Lt. Governor is largely a staff/administrative position) was Tambor Williams, a certified liberal Republican who often voted against gun owners' interests in the legislature. If this is his first pick, we shudder at the thought of subsequent decisions.

Tom Tancredo, on the other hand, asked long-time RMGO member Pat Miller, a vocal advocate for gun rights, to serve as his Lt. Governor. Tancredo also tipped his hat to the kind of administration he'd put together by indicating he'd appoint gun rights hero State Senator Greg Brophy as head of the Department of Natural Resources (a position which hunters and shooters have a vested interest in).

This endorsement is not without it's misgivings. Tancredo did not have a spotless record on gun issues in the post-Columbine flurry of gun control.

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[HighPopalorum]

Maes is a moron, and Hickenlooper is a socialist. What's a thinking man to do?

Given those options, the thinking man holds his nose and votes socialist. :twocents:

On issue after issue, the modern right lines up on the wrong side of civil liberty: torture, marriage equality, human migration, privacy, women's reproductive freedom, capital punishment, drug law reform, prisoners' rights... the list is endless. If the Reps were running a libertarian-leaning candidate, I would vote for him or her. They are not - the current slate of Tea Party "libertarians" are anything but lovers of liberty.

When the Republicans kick out the authoritarians and the Christian ideologues, I will return to the fold. Until then, this thinking man will vote for Democrats.

[boulderbud5525]

Given those options, the thinking man holds his nose and votes socialist. :twocents:

On issue after issue, the modern right lines up on the wrong side of civil liberty: torture, marriage equality, human migration, privacy, women's reproductive freedom, capital punishment, drug law reform, prisoners' rights... the list is endless. If the Reps were running a libertarian-leaning candidate, I would vote for him or her. They are not - the current slate of Tea Party "libertarians" are anything but lovers of liberty.

When the Republicans kick out the authoritarians and the Christian ideologues, I will return to the fold. Until then, this thinking man will vote for Democrats.

well said! :thumbsup:

[bikeTripper]

the current slate of Tea Party "libertarians" are anything but lovers of liberty.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

As I have mentioned elsewhere, these right wing RepubLibertarianicans are not interested in civil liberties. They will mouth the hands off economics of Libertarians, because they do not want to be regulated or taxed, but real Liberty scares them. It's way too hard to control free people.