while i laid in hospital this thread went from pics of nice normal pre-flowers to red streaks on seedlings and prefect circles on seeds :wtf: i'm finding it impossible to resist the urge to sprout a few dozen seeds to test these theories ....da*n internet...,must look at every seed with mag glass , record round or not , label seed ,look at each sprout ,record red streak or not.....THANKS....THANKS ALOT......so much paper work ahead .....or maybe hobble on back to bed and let the young folks take care of it ......damn pharms are kicking in...fuck it...call me later baby.