300.00$ pounds of cannabis indoors.

[MimbresValley]

how can a 1000W HPS cost ~.$0.11 an hour to run? 1000W = 1KW. not to mention your ballast pulls more power than 1Kw (about 1200-1300 roughly). so not even including the overhead you will be paying over $0.13 an hour to run it. i'm just using your numbers.

your argument is moot. in cali medical grade weed goes for $2000-25000 a pound. at least my that's what my buddy up north gets.

and it's not so much a how much it cost someone to grow, but how much time they have invested into their product. they have to cover 3+ months of overhead for one harvest (not talking perpetual here). and even if it is a perpetual harvest it still takes 3+ months to harvest a plant. the costs are still present. you also fail to mention that you need a place to grow indoors. this also costs money and accounts for some of your overhead.

there are 15 MMJ states. it's not quite the black market that you describe. the bottom line is people can charge whatever they want as long as people are willing to pay it.

where are the pics of these two pound plants that you grew indoors? is that wet weight?


-shake

.13$ is correct. .11$ was a typo
1000w bulb draws 9.2 amps and yes there is a small amount of juice used by the digital ballast.
1200-1300watts for a thousand must be with an old magentic core ballasts.

I have read the loss is as low as 20 watts on newer digital models, here is an article backing up what I am saying

Digital Ballasts Explained | BGHydro



That plant was from an old indoor grow in cali, I use a different setup now, much smaller plants on a perpetual harvest due to legal requirements in my state.
Why would I weigh the bud wet, is that what you do?, I personally weight the bud after it has been dried and manicured. whats the point in weighing it twice.
lol

[badrat31]

.13$ is correct. .11$ was a typo
1000w bulb draws 9.2 amps and yes there is a small amount of juice used by the digital ballast.
1200-1300watts for a thousand must be with an old magentic core ballasts.

I have read the loss is as low as 20 watts on newer digital models, here is an article backing up what I am saying

Digital Ballasts Explained | BGHydro



That plant was from an old indoor grow in cali, I use a different setup now, much smaller plants on a perpetual harvest due to legal requirements in my state.
Why would I weigh the bud wet, is that what you do?, I personally weight the bud after it has been dried and manicured. whats the point in weighing it twice.
lol

I HAVE GROWN MORE THEN A POUND FROM THREE INDOOR PLANTS; I WAS NOT TRYING TO DO IT; THEY WERE STAVIA DOMINIT AND i DID NOT WANT THE PLANTS TO BE STICKS; SO LET THEM GO FOR ALMOST 16 WEEKS; THAT STRECTH THEY DO FILLED OUT AND i WAS NOT ANGRY.:thumbsup: SO i CAN DO IT FOR AROUND THE PRICE MR. DOM IS SAYING(WITH OUT PERPETUAL; i CAN DO IT WITH ONE PLANT; TECHNQUE IS IMPROTANT)

[badrat31]

I HAVE GROWN MORE THEN A POUND FROM THREE INDOOR PLANTS; I WAS NOT TRYING TO DO IT; THEY WERE STAVIA DOMINIT AND i DID NOT WANT THE PLANTS TO BE STICKS; SO LET THEM GO FOR ALMOST 16 WEEKS; THAT STRECTH THEY DO FILLED OUT AND i WAS NOT ANGRY.:thumbsup: SO i CAN DO IT FOR AROUND THE PRICE MR. DOM IS SAYING(WITH OUT PERPETUAL; i CAN DO IT WITH ONE PLANT; TECHNQUE IS IMPROTANT)

Oh, i used one 1000w HPS/dwc/ with circulation pump and air injection. on foxfarm nurts.:jointsmile:

[headshake]

We are talking penny's compared to"$2000-25000 there are 15 MMJ states. it's not quite the black market that you describe. the bottom line is people can charge whatever they want as long as people are willing to pay it". And I think there is a difference between rec and medical use

wtf are you talking about?

-shake

[MadSativa]

allot to read, but your wrong in allot of ways, Jorge is not really Jorge, and that book is about 15 years old, very good book though I have it too for like 15 years. you can obviously do math but your missing allot of variables such as a Small plant uses way less of everything a Small room uses way less of everything, you talked of a/c running for a grow room this big you need a industrial a/c unit and they don't run cheep and to run them is not cheep. little plants can b grown in pots about 1 gallon big plants need much bigger even 50 gallon pots for a 15 foot tall plant, smaller for smaller plant. this eats nutrients like they were just plain old water, easily you will uses one gallon of pure nutes a month when flowing 4 sativa strains that are big, how much does a gallon of nutes cost, not cheep especially if your using good nutes. electricity for one 600Watter is about 15 bucks a month, but for a room that can handle 4 massive sativa strains were talking minimum 2000W thats about 60 a month. U can see where the holes are to produce for a state you need a massive grow room to produce for one self not so much your perpetual harvest is a good model but for some one who smokes allot makes concentrates a oz is gone in one day, one oz only makes about 9-15g of oil depending on strain and grower. I can see how one can be thrifty but when it comes to producing medicine for the state the state will not allow thrifty you will need to run your rooms like science labs.

even in Jorge's book he says hydro can shave off about 1 or 2 weeks for harvest and Franco over at green house will say over and over potency increases less then 1 percent in hydro (which is not noticeable). this means dirt is easier to learn and time is not that much of a factor. Everyone in the world will agree terpins in cannabis are much better developed in herb grown in soil. Which is why allot grow soil and not hydro, personally the taste is the reason I say go soil and the easy start to soil is a good one for patients too

[MadSativa]

when one grows for them selves they can make nutes and uses methods to keep price way down, but for a producer this is not an option

[alfonso2002]

The quote that you put in an earlier post talking about the price of medical cannabis

[ScaredasHell]

I think this whole thread can be summed up as follows:

The dispensaries are charging $13+ per gram, or around $6k per lb.

It costs nowhere near that to produce a lb. (whether it's $300 or $1,500 per lb).

The dispensaries are supposed to be "non-profits."

Someone's getting rich. That's not consistent with what most people think of, when they think "non-profit."

Solution - get your PPL like I did.

'nuff said. :rastasmoke:

[MadSativa]

thats not what nonprofit means, they are not volunteers caseu that would be against the law.



Non-profit organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a little bit

Non-profit distinction
Ownership is the quantitative difference between for- and not-for-profit organizations. For-profit organizations can be privately owned and may re-distribute taxable wealth to employees and shareholders. By contrast, not-for-profit organizations do not have owners. They have controlling members or boards, but these people cannot sell their shares to others or personally benefit in any taxable way.
While they are able to earn a profit, more accurately called a surplus, such earnings must be retained by the organization for its self-preservation, expansion and future plans. Earnings may not benefit individuals or stake-holders.[3] While some nonprofit organizations put substantial funds into hiring and rewarding their internal corporate leadership, middle-management personnel and workers, others employ unpaid volunteers and even executives may work for no compensation. However, since the late 1980s there has been a growing consensus that nonprofits can achieve their corporate targets more effectively by using some of the same methods developed in for-profit enterprises. These include effective internal management, ensuring accountability for results, and monitoring the performance of different divisions or projects in order to better benefit from their capital and workers. Those require satisfied management and that, in turn, begins with the organization's mission.[4]
[edit] Nature and goals
NPOs are often charities or service organizations; they may be organized as a not-for-profit corporation or as a trust, a cooperative, or they may be purely informal.
Sometimes they are also called foundations, or endowments that have large stock funds. A very similar organization called the supporting organization operates like a foundation, but they are more complicated to administer, they are more tax favored, and the public charities that receive grants from them must have a specially determined relationship

[alfonso2002]

very good scaredashell for sure that is what we have to do.Have you got any meds yet?