Grafting?

[canniwhatsis]

Haven't tried any new grafts recently,... Need to keep plant count in order while still keeping up with needs of patients first.


Once I get my groove on with the new 600+400wHPS (1k total) flower room I'll start playing with the veging girls more


Honey, was the suggestion Khyberkitsue had for grafting. I need a better method of closing the wound on the grafted stalk. So far tape has worked best,... but guess what? Tape don't stick to honey Tying with string is a BITCH, clothes pins hold to tightly and pinch off circulation. *sigh*

I'll start swinging at this again in a couple months once the new flowering area is nailed down. :hippy:

[Stellybutton]

My guess is that it's going to produce 2 distinctly different types of pot off of the same root mass. I don't think a graft will cause genetic changes, but I haven't done it either, so take that with a grain of salt. I expect you to have a relatively normal plant, with one branch of totally different buds on it.

We shall see :jointsmile:

So what do you get then if you cut a clone off of the graft? Does it retain the original DNA only, or is it a mix of the 2? Hmmmmmmmm. :stoned:

[canniwhatsis]

So what do you get then if you cut a clone off of the graft? Does it retain the original DNA only, or is it a mix of the 2? Hmmmmmmmm. :stoned:

This will be answered in a few months, my first AK 47 clone off of the grafted mom (Grafted an AK shoot to a Blueberry root mass) Has rooted, I plan on flowering small, say 4-6" tall. So in just a few short weeks she's going to flower. I've got my first harvest of the pure ungrafted strain down this week, and almost ready to put into a jar.

If the clone has picked up any traits from the host plant it'll show up in flowering.

REALLY looking forward to getting a durban poison cutting off of the graftomum, that strain is night and day from the host blueberry!


Pic: My first AK47 harvest just after cutting and initial trimming. This was cut from a single strain mother, and flowered from clone at around 4" tall. looks like pretty close to .5 oz dry.

[canniwhatsis]

I will try to get some pics of the GraftoMum tonight,... she kinda needs a hair cut again but is looking really nice otherwise.

[Vancefish]

Looking good Canni!!:thumbsup:

Been missing you on the work front, although your replacement IS cuter then you:S2:

I'm with Letseeya, drill a hole in a thicker stem, then slide your semi-shaved cutting into the hole. with proper selection of cutting stem size and hole size you should be able to get a nice tight fit, requiring nothing to hold it in place.

From what I've read on DNA involving Cannabis. DNA can creep up the stem over time. Sounds like if given a few years it might even convert a branch completely. However it takes time and doesn't just switch the branch overnight. The DNA shift happens slowly over time. Meaning the branches forming closest to the graft may switch in a few months, But the farther up that branch the longer it will take.

I've been needing to invite you to weeding4U and I's joint Hash bash this Saturday. We are combining our DP and G, and GDP trim piles for a couple/few runs. Thought you might be interested in adding to the pile?? We'll be running each strain separately to maintain specific strain effects.

Wouldn't mind getting a cutting of that ISS either.

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey Canni sorry i couldnt expand on my ideas with your project. I think its a great idea for people who need to keep the plant count down, yet create a mother with varies strains to clone from:thumbsup:.

My computer speed will not let me view your video so all im going on is experience with tre

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey Canni sorry i couldn't expand on my ideas with your project. I think its a great idea for people who need to keep the plant count down, yet create a mother with varies strains to clone from:thumbsup:.

My computer speed will not let me view your video so all im going on is experience with tree's. But id bet if you can harvest a plant, cut it down good to about 4'' tall and keeping some foliage on the plant. Then take it out of its pot and cut an inch or two of the roots on all four sides including the bottom. Put it back into the same pot and fill with fresh soil. Now you only need to go back to 18/6 and start veg nutes to feed the plant as we want it to revert back to the veg stage. After the plant shows new growth [2-3 weeks] you could begin introducing your cuts to the main stem as this will be where your cuts should get the most uptake then any other place on the plant at this time.

I would use a drill to create your hole in the main stem for the cut and i would use more of a thick branch like cut rather then a small end cut clone. Maybe something with bark as i would use the same size drill bit as the cut. You can always trim the cut down so the host plant doesnt have to take on such a big burden. By using a drill bit the size of your cut, it should fit nice and tight. Then i would use some sort of putty around the wound to seal up the drilled hole. It should keep it in place for ya too:thumbsup:

Now you could also drill your hole straight through the main stem, then remove the outer layer of a cut and slide the cut through the hole till your scraped cut matches up to the hole in the main branch. Now this works on trees, but never tried on a MJ plant, but id think the hole would heal with putty to enclose it.

One more thing to toss out. If you want a clone fast and a big one just scrap around the outer part of the cut you want to take. Then apply rooting gel to where you scrapped. Now add a medium in something like cheese cloth or pantyhose and wrap it around the area you had scrapped. In a week you will see the roots starting to form in the pantyhose. Then cut just below the new set of roots, unwrap the pantyhose and plant. Make sure the medium is against the scrapping and not the pantyhose, but im sure ya got that.

Man your plant looks great Canni:thumbsup:. 3-4 Oz's off one plant is a great goal man, it really shows how a nice maintained scrog can do bro. And id much always have medium size buds then one big ass cola and then a few other nugs. They look solid too man, let us know how she acts man.

Later:rasta:

[TANKJR]

Yea, I'm watching this thread as well....trying to be quiet and learn! shhh! I want to increase my variety of moms, but after seeing the moms I'd be cutting from, I don't think I'll have the room in the veg room to fit them all in....this would be a good way to fit them all in one plant.

Thoughts.... If honey helps, maybe try the hole thing, and the honey would not have to stick to the tape, er tape to honey? if the graftee fits tight enough? Maybe use honey for sealing? Just thinking out loud...Keep workin it Canni! We's waiting and wishing you success! :thumbsup:

[canniwhatsis]

Looking good Canni!!:thumbsup:

Been missing you on the work front, although your replacement IS cuter then you:S2:

I'm with Letseeya, drill a hole in a thicker stem, then slide your semi-shaved cutting into the hole. with proper selection of cutting stem size and hole size you should be able to get a nice tight fit, requiring nothing to hold it in place.

From what I've read on DNA involving Cannabis. DNA can creep up the stem over time. Sounds like if given a few years it might even convert a branch completely. However it takes time and doesn't just switch the branch overnight. The DNA shift happens slowly over time. Meaning the branches forming closest to the graft may switch in a few months, But the farther up that branch the longer it will take.

I've been needing to invite you to weeding4U and I's joint Hash bash this Saturday. We are combining our DP and G, and GDP trim piles for a couple/few runs. Thought you might be interested in adding to the pile?? We'll be running each strain separately to maintain specific strain effects.

Wouldn't mind getting a cutting of that ISS either.

You still have my # right? Gimme a call. I'm going to be harvesting this weekend, so I'll have some new trimmings, and I still have a boatload in the freezer just waiting to get run thru bubble bags. (Tho none are marked per strain, so mine would be a hodgepodge of GDP DP and BlueBerry. )

[canniwhatsis]

Yea, I'm watching this thread as well....trying to be quiet and learn! shhh! I want to increase my variety of moms, but after seeing the moms I'd be cutting from, I don't think I'll have the room in the veg room to fit them all in....this would be a good way to fit them all in one plant.

Thoughts.... If honey helps, maybe try the hole thing, and the honey would not have to stick to the tape, er tape to honey? if the graftee fits tight enough? Maybe use honey for sealing? Just thinking out loud...Keep workin it Canni! We's waiting and wishing you success! :thumbsup:

I'm sure more success will come, need to focus on other things right now before being able to expend energy on experiments.


As for your mother plant situation, do a Bonsai. They wont yield a full tray of plants per cutting, but they give up 6-10 cuttings every week and a half to 2 weeks! (I throw about 30 cloneable cuttings away every other week because I have to stay under count)