Colorado Gubernatorial Candidates Debate

[wkhey4]

I don't not have a problem with Roe v Wade. That is a personal choice for every woman in this country. What I have a problem with that continually happens when speaking with liberals is:

That the sky could be caving in right now--and they would bring up abortion rights--in one of their comments.

I am very tired of talking about abortion--because they inflict into every other topic from A to Z. Right now in this country our number one concern is jobs. Someone talks about jobs--and there is certain to be a liberal that wants to talk about abortion. Someone wants to talk about the deficit--and there is certain to be a liberal that brings up abortion. Someone wants to talk about marijuana--and there is certain to be a liberal that wants to bring up abortion.

Again--it's like every woman in this country is going to have an abortion within the next few months--it is a liberals number topic of concern. I just wish their were abortion blogs--where these people could have another 40 year discussion with each other--LOL I don't want to hear it anymore.

Yeah right ..label me with the rest of the bleeding heart liberals. The last thing I'm concerned about is the abortion issue. Though the politically correct way of thinking about the issue is about the result and not about the ways of fixing the problem which is so typical of the rights way of thinking.
Say your against a position but having no realistic solution is so typical of your way of thinking !

[Zedleppelin]

I don't not have a problem with Roe v Wade. That is a personal choice for every woman in this country. What I have a problem with that continually happens when speaking with liberals is:

That the sky could be caving in right now--and they would bring up abortion rights--in one of their comments.

I am very tired of talking about abortion--because they inflict into every other topic from A to Z. Right now in this country our number one concern is jobs. Someone talks about jobs--and there is certain to be a liberal that wants to talk about abortion. Someone wants to talk about the deficit--and there is certain to be a liberal that brings up abortion. Someone wants to talk about marijuana--and there is certain to be a liberal that wants to bring up abortion.

Again--it's like every woman in this country is going to have an abortion within the next few months--it is a liberals number topic of concern. I just wish their were abortion blogs--where these people could have another 40 year discussion with each other--LOL I don't want to hear it anymore.

Kind of like how you people couldnt shut up about Clintons penis for the past 12 years?

Do you really think I give a rats ass about abortion? Whether abortion is legal or not is not going to effect me one way or another. What I do care about is one group of people thinking they are morally superior to the rest of us because of some fairy tale book and then proceed to push this idiotic bullshit down other peoples throats. People have been victimized for centuries by these do-gooders and all one has to do is tune into FOX News for 5 minutes to know its the same old song and dance.

[rightwinger]

hey t\y11

Your so full of shite ! Typical post when one has nothing to educate us uninformed about. You brought up the entire abortion issue. Take a beep breath and review your posts.

1st PAGE--by Zedleppin--look it up--in his post several paragraphs down.

It was he/she that moved this thread to abortion.

[rightwinger]

Kind of like how you people couldnt shut up about Clintons penis for the past 12 years?

Do you really think I give a rats ass about abortion? Whether abortion is legal or not is not going to effect me one way or another. What I do care about is one group of people thinking they are morally superior to the rest of us because of some fairy tale book and then proceed to push this idiotic bullshit down other peoples throats. People have been victimized for centuries by these do-gooders and all one has to do is tune into FOX News for 5 minutes to know its the same old song and dance.

Clinton's penis was and is the last thing on my mind--LOL.

And here are some pro-life DEMOCRAT politicians that I am certain you will be voting against too--LOL

Pro-life Democratic politicians look to future after Casey convention speech :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

And to help you out a little bit. There are pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Republicans. There are pro-choice Democrats and pro-life Democrats. It's a mixed bag of people from every political party--from every race--and from every religion. So it's not worth the time to talk about--because it has been continually discussed for the last 40 YEARS. And I am tired of people like you including it into every single topic of interest. It's more than obvious that's the only thing you know.

[Zedleppelin]

It's more than obvious that's the only thing you know.

There is one other thing I know, and that is abortion is not a constitutionally protected right, so I guess that trumps what you know. :smokin:

[wkhey4]

if it wasn't

Kind of like how you people couldnt shut up about Clintons penis for the past 12 years?

Do you really think I give a rats ass about abortion? Whether abortion is legal or not is not going to effect me one way or another. What I do care about is one group of people thinking they are morally superior to the rest of us because of some fairy tale book and then proceed to push this idiotic bullshit down other peoples throats. People have been victimized for centuries by these do-gooders and all one has to do is tune into FOX News for 5 minutes to know its the same old song and dance.

If you look at history,most conflicts throughout world history
are fought over religious beliefs. If you take religious beliefs-religion
out of the equation you'd have a world far more advanced then it is now.
The opiate of the masses and the reason for our backwards way of thinking. is the preponderating belief of a supreme being that actually cares and has a grand scream for our eternal salvation

[mustangwomyn]

There is one other thing I know, and that is abortion is not a constitutionally protected right, so I guess that trumps what you know. :smokin:

Constitution protected right implys, it is in the US Constitution. Roe -vs- Wade was a case decided by the US Supreme Court, and is always subject to being reviewed again, should someone pursue a new appeal. So you are absolutely correct it is not a constitutional protected right.

[donniedorko]

From what I have seen and in my personal opinion--most marijuana users believe that the opposition is always coming from the right--when it's not.

It's either a lack of knowledge about candidates--past Presidents etc. But for every republican against the use of marijuana I can bring up just as many democrats.

My point being marijuana is not a left/right issue. There are opponents to legalising marijuana on both sides of the isle. And I imagine there are just as many republicans as democrats who want to legalise marijuana.

So we have to pay attention to the candidates we are voting for. Right now--Tom Tancredo is the most pro candidate in this election cycle--even though he is conservative. He is the one most likely to stop new regulation-pointed at caregivers and medical marijuana centers. Hickenlooper seems to be more inclined to listen to what law enforcement tells him--which wouldn't be good for any of us.

Seems to me like there are only about four politicians in favor of legalization period. We can't even get a federal mmj bill, legalization is a long way off. If it comes in states, which I hope it will, it will be through small-d democracy. Initiatives, petitions, whatever. Once we get it legalized at the state level, we'll have to fight against idiotic regulations from the legislators who still won't bother listening to their constituents. And even after we do all that work in the states, if we elect the wrong president they'll be perfectly willing to use federal law against marijuana.

I'm just not seeing any groundswell of support for marijuana among federal politicians. Precious few at the state level are even willing to stand up for medical marijuana, much less full legalization.

[rightwinger]

Constitution protected right implys, it is in the US Constitution. Roe -vs- Wade was a case decided by the US Supreme Court, and is always subject to being reviewed again, should someone pursue a new appeal. So you are absolutely correct it is not a constitutional protected right.

When the high court makes a decision on a case like Roe v Wade it is the law of the land until it is overturned. It has been in effect for 40 years now--and is highly doubtful that it will ever be over-turned. Liberals like to use this topic to judge politicians. Nothing else appears to matter to them--it's always abortion--which again they will throw into every single topic.

They use it as a litmus test as to whom they are going to vote for.

It's a non-issue today. And there are much more important things in our lives that should be discussed--other than abortion.

The fact is--that every single woman in this country today can obtain an abortion--yet we are still discussing a 40 year old law. Today 40% of the women in this country having babies are not married--so as we see--it is a minut minority of women that choose to have abortions--yet again we're still talking about it.

More Single Women Are Having Babies - ABC News

[rightwinger]

Seems to me like there are only about four politicians in favor of legalization period. We can't even get a federal mmj bill, legalization is a long way off. If it comes in states, which I hope it will, it will be through small-d democracy. Initiatives, petitions, whatever. Once we get it legalized at the state level, we'll have to fight against idiotic regulations from the legislators who still won't bother listening to their constituents. And even after we do all that work in the states, if we elect the wrong president they'll be perfectly willing to use federal law against marijuana.

I'm just not seeing any groundswell of support for marijuana among federal politicians. Precious few at the state level are even willing to stand up for medical marijuana, much less full legalization.

California is going to legalise it--and I believe I heard that we may see it on our ballot in 2012. Ron Paul conservative--Rand Paul his son who is leading as a new senator from Kentucky is for legalising it along with Tom Tancredo here. I really can't think of any others right now.

BUT it's going to be very interesting to see how the Federal Government responds to California this November. It may be all out war.

A here is Diane Fienstein--a long term major democrat Senator in California who is against legalizing it there.

So as we see again--this is not a left/right issue--we are at odds with both sides of the isle.

Feinstein Joins Ranks of Politicians Against Legalizing Pot - LAist