help a girl out!!! lots of pics.

[sharlson]

thanks for looking everyone. well, heres the facts: plants are about 4 weeks old in sunshine mix #4 amended with perlite and lime. nute are jacks classic and dyna-gro on alternating schedule. a water, feed, water schedule. also low doses of calmag and molasses, alternating each with feedings. ph in is 6.0-6.3, with suggested amounts of each nutes.
the first two pictures were taken when the symptoms first showed up. i watered with jacks and within 48 hours the leaves did that. i poured phd water through and the ec was 3.0 so i flushed em out. down to about 400 or so and ph 6.3.
its two weeks later now and theyve been fed at increasing nute strenghts with water in between and its showing up again. thats the next series of pics. you can see the progression.
looks like potassium deficiency sort of, but i cant figure out why. if it was due to lock out, shouldnt i have fixed that?
oh, temps in veg room are in between 72-80 with 40-55 rh.
i appreciate any help. really!
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sharlson Reviewed by sharlson on 10-05-2010. help a girl out!!! lots of pics. thanks for looking everyone. well, heres the facts: plants are about 4 weeks old in sunshine mix #4 amended with perlite and lime. nute are jacks classic and dyna-gro on alternating schedule. a water, feed, water schedule. also low doses of calmag and molasses, alternating each with feedings. ph in is 6.0-6.3, with suggested amounts of each nutes. the first two pictures were taken when the symptoms first showed up. i watered with jacks and within 48 hours the leaves did that. i poured phd Rating: 5

[Hempsouth]

Looks slightly over watered during seedling stage and maybe compacted wet soil not letting enough oxygen get to the roots.

[sharlson]

hey thanks for your response. i amended the sushine with lots of perlite and have been trying to be really good at waiting til the pots dry. i took that picture after waterin though.

[sharlson]

anyone else. pretty please?

[Dutch Pimp]

that plant is in trouble...it may be too late? I would transplant to fresh soil and stop the nutes & pray

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[sharlson]

dutch pimp- yeah its in trouble. really too late? you thinking its locked out and thats why fresh soil?

[Dutch Pimp]

dutch pimp- yeah its in trouble. really too late? you thinking its locked out and thats why fresh soil?

yeah...overdose or lockout?...hard to say. A transplant is safest, hope. Check the root pattern/condition...you may be rootbound?

[sharlson]

yeah, the thing is i flushed em, let em dry out, cut of messed up leaves and started up half strength. the leaf thing just came back on the developing leaves (second set) after about a week and a half. they dont seem root bound really but maybe i should pot up with fresh soil. thanks.

[polishpollack]

Flushing and getting your pH to 6.3 apparently fixed this problem once, so chances are good it'll help again. But why are you alternating ferts? Stick with the dynagro but don't use it so much. In soil it's hard to tell exactly how much fert to give if you're using something like dyangro as it's a liquid and you can be tempted to just pour it in no matter what the plants are like. That's why I advocate using powder fert that have bacteria and fungi in them, because all you do then is water when the soil is dry. You don't have to guess as guessing means you assume the plants need more but we are usually wrong when we assume. I'd flush the plants and if you want to continue using a liquid fert, transplant into bigger pots with more soil, and I mean pots that are like 5 gallon buckets or maybe a little bigger. Sad thing is these may not recover as it looks like what we call "fert burn," too much fertilizer over time. Using a powder fert will prevent you from having to watch your pH too. It's a better solution. One half cup of fert per gallon of potting soil. By the way, what is molasses going to do?

[sharlson]

hey polishpollack- thanks for your reply. im alternating ferts because the jacks isnt high on micronutes (but a really good fert) and the dyna grow is complete. jacks is powdered, dyna is not. with the liquid dyna been reading around at what other people do and just trying to start low and increase as they grow. yeah, i will transplant into bigger pots.
molasses is to feed benes and for cal,mag, sulphur. thanks for your reply and suggestions