here read it

[middieman440]

There seems to be alot of rumors about Prop 19. I'm in the industry & I will give you a well educated summary of both sides & than you may decide for yourself. I do not run around on CL Rant & Raves so any arguements will go w/ no reply. I'm simply here to help some people see clearly as to what this exactly is & how it will work leaving yourself to decide.

Lets start with the people who are opposed. The majority of these groups are alchohol, active MMJ services, tobacco, etc. They are leading people to believe that prop 19 will mess up their medicinal MMJ laws. The most important thing to know is that this bill DOES NOT effect medicinal patients in anyway shape or form.

Those with prescriptions will have not 1 single change in their' laws. You will not be restricted to a 5x5 grow area, thats for non prescribed users. Large corporations will not take over as marijuana will still be considered an illegal drug under federal law so they will not touch it. This leaves local Californians to pave the road w/ this could be new industry.

The reasons why the "activists" are telling you to vote no, the reason they are calling it a scam it pretty clear. They fear competition. The state of CA is not about to open a large pot farm to supply the state. That is a fantasy. It will be growers registered through the dept of health who supply our land. You will have to be a CA resident.

What are the dispensaries going to do when you don't have to be medical to sell pot out of a store ? The ones who are overpriced legal drug dealers will fall. Those who are in it just to make a living will prosper. What drug dealer wants competition ? Did you know your average dispensary makes over 2 million dollars a year ? Yet they are non profit & compassionate ? LOL Get real.

This new law, AGAIN...Does not effect medicinal patients at all. This just makes it where anyone over 21 will be allowed personal amounts for transport, growing their own, or going to a legal establishment who will charge a $50 tax per ounce putting money into our state.

Others who vote no are your anti marijuana people. They just place all drugs in the same category & do not look at the positive vs the negative. However marijuana may be the thing to save your kushy state or county employment.

If this does not pass, here is what will happen. 1st and most importantly no laws, no bills, no cops, no crackdowns, will even put a dent in the current marijuana industry. It is growing such as the plants do & no matter what you will not stop it or slow it down in the state of Ca.

Instead of us collecting the money to help out our state we will be allowing the legal drug dealers known as "caregivers" , the mexican drug cartel, & many other illegal operations will be pocketing the cash & you will be seeing none of it like right now. People will continue to profit under the radar while denying our state an entire new industry.

Did you know last week a new law was passed where if you are caught w/ anything under an oz is now just a $100 fine & not a criminal offense ? It was passed & is in effect in Jan. This will make whatever is going on now pump even more marijuana in no matter what happens in Nov.

Now if the bill passes.....the people of Cali will have made a very smart decision. It clearly reads it on the ballot. Possible Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in taxes collected annually. This will also bring in tourism. Do you have any idea how many people go to Amsterdam just so they can smoke in a coffee shop ?

All of that MJ tourism will pour into Ca for the fact they can walk into the store & buy it. It will create thousands of jobs in Ca due to all the new services & establishments. The only thing this law is doing is allowing people now to smoke, possess, grow a small amount without the bullshit prescription. The prescription will just entitle you to more rights. Medicinal patients again will not be effected by this.

There is nothing anyone can do to stop the marijuana in our state. It will continue no matter what. Why not let it kick our budget it in the ass, create new jobs, steal from the cartel, steal from illegal operations, etc ? Just stop & think about it for a minute. Why would dispensaries, delivery services vote no ? It is because they will have to make regular money like everyonelse.

They wont be buying 3.5 grams of weeds for 10 bucks & charge you $70 . Those non compassionate drug dealers out to get rich will be out of the picture. It won't be fast money for them any longer. Anyone who wants in the industry will now be allowed in without some bullshit $50 meaningless peice of paper saying your legal. It will be a wide open maket that local Califonians will control. Sorry you will get competition, thats life.

We could just vote no so criminals get stronger, cartel gets stronger. Why not shut em down by putting their' cash in our pockets ? Even if you hate marijuana, it would be foolish to vote no. Weed won't stop in Cali.....You might as well let it help us. We will be the marijuana capitol of the world, Amsterdam's pot industry will be smashed. Hundreds of thousands of people who can;t afford amsterdam will come here.

The cons of this..........there are none. The people in the Marijuana industry are going to keep on if it don't pass. If it will be here anyway which it will, why not let it help us ? Our state is in a crisis & there is a very ez helpful solution.

VOTE YES ON 19 !!!

middieman440 Reviewed by middieman440 on 10-04-2010. here read it There seems to be alot of rumors about Prop 19. I'm in the industry & I will give you a well educated summary of both sides & than you may decide for yourself. I do not run around on CL Rant & Raves so any arguements will go w/ no reply. I'm simply here to help some people see clearly as to what this exactly is & how it will work leaving yourself to decide. Lets start with the people who are opposed. The majority of these groups are alchohol, active MMJ services, tobacco, etc. They are Rating: 5

[Ub3rB0ng]

There seems to be alot of rumors about Prop 19. I'm in the industry & I will give you a well educated summary of both sides & than you may decide for yourself. I do not run around on CL Rant & Raves so any arguements will go w/ no reply. I'm simply here to help some people see clearly as to what this exactly is & how it will work leaving yourself to decide.

Lets start with the people who are opposed. The majority of these groups are alchohol, active MMJ services, tobacco, etc. They are leading people to believe that prop 19 will mess up their medicinal MMJ laws. The most important thing to know is that this bill DOES NOT effect medicinal patients in anyway shape or form.

Those with prescriptions will have not 1 single change in their' laws. You will not be restricted to a 5x5 grow area, thats for non prescribed users. Large corporations will not take over as marijuana will still be considered an illegal drug under federal law so they will not touch it. This leaves local Californians to pave the road w/ this could be new industry.

The reasons why the "activists" are telling you to vote no, the reason they are calling it a scam it pretty clear. They fear competition. The state of CA is not about to open a large pot farm to supply the state. That is a fantasy. It will be growers registered through the dept of health who supply our land. You will have to be a CA resident.

What are the dispensaries going to do when you don't have to be medical to sell pot out of a store ? The ones who are overpriced legal drug dealers will fall. Those who are in it just to make a living will prosper. What drug dealer wants competition ? Did you know your average dispensary makes over 2 million dollars a year ? Yet they are non profit & compassionate ? LOL Get real.

This new law, AGAIN...Does not effect medicinal patients at all. This just makes it where anyone over 21 will be allowed personal amounts for transport, growing their own, or going to a legal establishment who will charge a $50 tax per ounce putting money into our state.

Others who vote no are your anti marijuana people. They just place all drugs in the same category & do not look at the positive vs the negative. However marijuana may be the thing to save your kushy state or county employment.

If this does not pass, here is what will happen. 1st and most importantly no laws, no bills, no cops, no crackdowns, will even put a dent in the current marijuana industry. It is growing such as the plants do & no matter what you will not stop it or slow it down in the state of Ca.

Instead of us collecting the money to help out our state we will be allowing the legal drug dealers known as "caregivers" , the mexican drug cartel, & many other illegal operations will be pocketing the cash & you will be seeing none of it like right now. People will continue to profit under the radar while denying our state an entire new industry.

Did you know last week a new law was passed where if you are caught w/ anything under an oz is now just a $100 fine & not a criminal offense ? It was passed & is in effect in Jan. This will make whatever is going on now pump even more marijuana in no matter what happens in Nov.

Now if the bill passes.....the people of Cali will have made a very smart decision. It clearly reads it on the ballot. Possible Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in taxes collected annually. This will also bring in tourism. Do you have any idea how many people go to Amsterdam just so they can smoke in a coffee shop ?

All of that MJ tourism will pour into Ca for the fact they can walk into the store & buy it. It will create thousands of jobs in Ca due to all the new services & establishments. The only thing this law is doing is allowing people now to smoke, possess, grow a small amount without the bullshit prescription. The prescription will just entitle you to more rights. Medicinal patients again will not be effected by this.

There is nothing anyone can do to stop the marijuana in our state. It will continue no matter what. Why not let it kick our budget it in the ass, create new jobs, steal from the cartel, steal from illegal operations, etc ? Just stop & think about it for a minute. Why would dispensaries, delivery services vote no ? It is because they will have to make regular money like everyonelse.

They wont be buying 3.5 grams of weeds for 10 bucks & charge you $70 . Those non compassionate drug dealers out to get rich will be out of the picture. It won't be fast money for them any longer. Anyone who wants in the industry will now be allowed in without some bullshit $50 meaningless peice of paper saying your legal. It will be a wide open maket that local Califonians will control. Sorry you will get competition, thats life.

We could just vote no so criminals get stronger, cartel gets stronger. Why not shut em down by putting their' cash in our pockets ? Even if you hate marijuana, it would be foolish to vote no. Weed won't stop in Cali.....You might as well let it help us. We will be the marijuana capitol of the world, Amsterdam's pot industry will be smashed. Hundreds of thousands of people who can;t afford amsterdam will come here.

The cons of this..........there are none. The people in the Marijuana industry are going to keep on if it don't pass. If it will be here anyway which it will, why not let it help us ? Our state is in a crisis & there is a very ez helpful solution.

VOTE YES ON 19 !!!

Thanks for the awesome post,and this is what I have been tryin to say all along.

[middieman440]

yeah man i didnt write it,someone posted it on craigslist in the rant&rave section,i figured more smokers would be here and wouldnt mind a good read....

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[ZeroWingX]

My cousin is a Lawyer and I just talked to her last night. She has been researching this for a while and honestly they are the only real people who can clear up the bill. She said yes to pretty much everything I feared is going to happen the only difference is that it wont happen Instantly it will be over the course of a few years. But yes it does and will effect Medical patients slowly cutting and stripping till the only thing left is what the State wants...
I notice a lot of you "Yes" people don't actually have scripts and arn't using Marijuana for any reason besides stress or acute insomnia. Not saying all of you but I took a survey on the streets as well as on Facebook and found over 75% smoke only for those basic reasons. People who are chronicly ill, like me with bad Anxiety(Massive Anxiety Attacks caused by a Adreneline gland disorder+Depression+Paronia or fear of Panic Attacks(re-occurance)), Muscle spasm's, Paronia, Chronic Insomnia (Im not talking wahh wahh I cant go to sleep and its 2am... Im talking I run on 1-3 hours a day sleep), Chemo patients, people who use it as a sub for other far more harmful habits such as alcoholism or addiction's, and people who have pains from accidents, surgery, treatments or arthritis, ect. Are the ones paying because you wan't to treat MM as some sort of "fun" time.
I'm all for Legalization, but this isn't it. This is Taxation and control.
One Love...
:rastasmoke:

[middieman440]

i dont know buddy,the prop states it wont effect the medical users.a lawyer cant tell you whats going to happen,nobody can say they know whats going to happen untill it actually does happen,and no matter what happens its still going to be illegal federally,...i honestly dont really care for the outcome,but a yes outcome will be very nice..!you say you suffer from anxiety/panick attacks.so do i along with extreme heart palputations,and smoking pot doesnt help with that at all...but zanax works wonders....the pot helps me sleep through out the night without waking up every hour....

people want the yes vote as a stepping stone and to move forward getting the plant and its uses, legal, world-wide.....

im, sure the pot helps you medically but i gaurentee you smoke it to get high/stoned,even thought they are using it medically they dam sure enjoy that great feeling,and i doubt any one can argue with that....

my grandmother never touched the stuff her whole life,well she got cancer my uncle gave her some pot with her knowing,and afterwards she felt great,and she continues to use it because it makes her feel GOOD...wether thats medically good or just plain ol being stoned good..either way shes happier now than before....

the no voters are money makers 90% of them....i honestly think we should get a 1/4 of californias people give them a bottle of vodka and say drink and have lots of fun because its 100% legal,then after the hundreds of fights,accidents,alchohol poisoning,rapes,etc occur all just from liqour happen maybe then they will make that illegal again.....

[4harley]

its about time some one puts a post that makes sence.as 4 the med patients
THIS LAW WILL NOT AFFECT YOU![IDIOTS THAT THINKS IT DOES].you are a seperate groupe altogether.this law is for the rest of us who will have to follow more stringint growing laws.5x5 growing space.
all the parinoids go away.i wont respond.
all the first post says is exactly what the new law proposes.[REALITY-GET MY POINT].please stop all your suppositions,maybes,and what ifs,what could be as some sort of fact.[talkin out your ass bullshit],oh and lets not forget all you bandwagon riders.[the ignorent].this law will change the state.
thanx for the first post writer.best said post here in our community.

[WillyNilly]

I just posted that on my CL R&R! :rastasmoke:

I fixed the typos, too.

[middieman440]

thanks guys...you fixed the typos haha...

[WillyNilly]

affect-verb. effect-noun. :rastabanna:

Marijuana affects smokers differently. The effects of this amazing miracle drug are considered pleasant by most.

LOL!