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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeTripper

    One of the things the Repubs have been really good at for the last 30 years is finding single issue voters and targeting them to put together winning electoral numbers. They get people so worked up about some social issue or other rhetorical hot button that they vote against their own larger interests.
    This is an issue I frequently discuss with my Other Half frequently. Don't vote just because the politican supports a cause you are for, when all other issues they are a total flip flop on. Consider all the facts before giving them a nod for what ever party they have in their back pocket.

    Just my 02¢ take it 4 what its worth

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeTripper
    You are correct, but I was talking about the Right Wing Republican types (and yes, I am painting with a broad brush) who 'tend towards' Libertarianism. Maybe I was a little unclear? What they really like is the non regulatory attitude towards business.

    They are definitely not Libertarians in the 'Big L' sense. It's sort of a pick and choose 'Little L' libertarian trend in their politics. I don't think they share the true Libertarians' fondness for civil liberties though. They are too much into being control freaks for that.

    One of the things the Repubs have been really good at for the last 30 years is finding single issue voters and targeting them to put together winning electoral numbers. They get people so worked up about some social issue or other rhetorical hot button that they vote against their own larger interests.

    My only real point is don't trust Tancredo just because he's pro legalization. I'd say the same thing about George Will, Pat Buchanan, and Bob Barr, etc...
    This is a surprisingly good post for a forum like this. I appreciate your input.

    I agree with you on all fronts. My parents are bible-belt repubs, so your point about single issues like gay marriage I can relate to.

    My father owns a small business which will be mine soon, so I appreciate how he thinks.

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
    Voted YES to disallow states from making their own medical marijuana laws. (Jul 2006)

    Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999)

    I don't think anyone is arguing the point of what Tancredo used to think--but he is for legalizing marijuana NOW.

    The debates have been on-going and he has taken a beating on his stance from the other two gubanatorial candidates John Hickenlooper and Dan Maes.

    I am just stating that now--the most favorable candidate to marijuana is Tom Tancredo. Many on the conservative side of the isle have finally realised that this country has wasted almost a trillion dollars on the war on marijuana--over the last 60 years--and it hasn't even put a dent into it. So they are for legalizing it--and taxing it.

    Here is what happened during the last debate between the gubanatorial candidates.

    Tom Tancredo today called for the legalization of marijuana.

    ??Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it,? said the American Constitution Party candidate for governor. He said despite all the time and money dedicated to the war on drugs, it has been a complete failure. ??If you can show me where we can get people off drugs by continuing down this same path, then show me,? he said.

    Tancredo said no one skulks around parks or school playgrounds trying to sell alcohol for the simple reason that the law provides no incentive for such behavior given that you can sell alcohol legally to adults.

    Republican Dan Maes and Democrat John Hickenlooper both said they oppose legalization of marijuana. The comments were made at a debate in Colorado Springs sponsored by Action 22, a political action group representing 22 counties in SE Colorado.

    Maes said if pot was legalized and taxed, the money brought in would probably just be wasted on the expansion of social programs anyway. ??We might as well prostitute our teenage daughters and tax that,? he said sarcastically.
    Tancredo calls for legalizing marijuana « Colorado Independent

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinger
    I don't think anyone is arguing the point of what Tancredo used to think--but he is for legalizing marijuana NOW.

    The debates have been on-going and he has taken a beating on his stance from the other two gubanatorial candidates John Hickenlooper and Dan Maes.

    I am just stating that now--the most favorable candidate to marijuana is Tom Tancredo. Many on the conservative side of the isle have finally realised that this country has wasted almost a trillion dollars on the war on marijuana--over the last 60 years--and it hasn't even put a dent into it. So they are for legalizing it--and taxing it.

    Here is what happened during the last debate between the gubanatorial candidates.



    Tancredo calls for legalizing marijuana « Colorado Independent

    Here is the entire--debate article

    Tom Tancredo today called for the legalization of marijuana.

    ??Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it,? said the American Constitution Party candidate for governor. He said despite all the time and money dedicated to the war on drugs, it has been a complete failure. ??If you can show me where we can get people off drugs by continuing down this same path, then show me,? he said.

    Tancredo said no one skulks around parks or school playgrounds trying to sell alcohol for the simple reason that the law provides no incentive for such behavior given that you can sell alcohol legally to adults.

    Republican Dan Maes and Democrat John Hickenlooper both said they oppose legalization of marijuana. The comments were made at a debate in Colorado Springs sponsored by Action 22, a political action group representing 22 counties in SE Colorado.

    Maes said if pot was legalized and taxed, the money brought in would probably just be wasted on the expansion of social programs anyway. ??We might as well prostitute our teenage daughters and tax that,? he said sarcastically.

    ??Dan and I don??t disagree too much on this,? Hickenlooper said. He said he has discussed the issue with social scientists, psychologists, and law enforcement professionals and that they all agree legalizing marijuana would be a bad idea.

    Tancredo countered that he knows many people in law enforcement who support legalizing marijuana and who say dealing with people who are high on marijuana is seldom as dangerous or problematic as dealing with drunks. ??The arguments against marijuana today are they same as the arguments against liquor years ago,? he said.

    Maes said legalized medical marijuana in Colorado was the first step toward legalization generally and that the state needs to control medical marijuana better than it is doing now. ??They??re coming in through the basement door and they??re working their way up,? he said.

    Hickenlooper said he supports medical marijuana and talked about someone he knows in city government ??who has probably never been drunk a day in her life? but who suffers from debilitating back pain. He said marijuana is the only thing that has ever helped her. He noted that she doesn??t smoke it but takes a tincture.

    While in Congress, Tancredo voted in 2006 for an amendment to stop the U.S. Department of Justice and DEA from using taxpayer funds to raid or investigate people involved in medical marijuana.
    Tancredo calls for legalizing marijuana « Colorado Independent

    So I would presume that some of you that want to legalize marijuana may want to think again about who your voting for.

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