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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    OUR VIEW: Gov. Tancredo? It could happen (vote here)
    Poll has him within 10 points
    September 28, 2010 5:46 PM

    Try saying it, just to see what it??s like: ??Governor Tancredo.?

    It was far-fetched a few weeks ago, as this column pointed out, but not so much anymore. A Pulse Opinion Research Poll Tuesday showed former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, a Republican running as the Constitution Party candidate, within 10 points of Denver Mayor and Democratic gubernatorial candidate John Hickenlooper. Democrats would be in serious trouble today, if it weren??t for Republican gubernatorial nominee Dan Maes. They had better hope and pray Maes doesn??t drop from the race and throw his support to Tancredo, giving the former congressman a likely win.

    Who would have thought it possible, a month or two ago, that a Constitution Party candidate would make this a race? Nobody who knows anything about Colorado politics.

    It??s astonishing what the establishment could be in for in November, and the unlikely ascent of Tancredo is just one more indicator.

    ??With a 10-point margin, at this point, I don??t think it??s a stretch to say Tancredo is in striking distance. Stranger things have happened in politics,? said Bob Drake, who ran campaigns for former Democratic U.S. Sen. Tim Wirth. Drake works as a partner in Talmey-Drake Research Strategy, a political research firm in Boulder.

    Drake??s partner, veteran Colorado pollster Paul Talmey, says it??s clear that voters are angry at Democrats.

    ??The fact this is not a walk for Hickenlooper is absolutely astounding,? Talmey said. ??A 10 percent margin cannot be consider a walk. I think this shows us that a lot of people really are ready for a third party.?

    The poll found Hickenlooper at 44 percent, Tancredo at 34 percent and Maes at 15 percent. If Tancredo cuts support for Maes by 10 points, he could be in a dogfight with Hickenlooper. If Maes drops out, Hickenlooper fights an uphill battle.

    Talmey said the polling data mean Hickenlooper will have to view Tancredo as a serious opponent, and consider ways to build up Maes.

    Drake said with only a 10 percent lead, Hickenlooper may start regretting promises to avoid going negative. If the lead drops to 7 points or fewer, Drake said Hickenlooper may have to break his promise of an all-positive campaign ?? a promise made when it seemed nobody would reach his stratosphere in the polls.

    Bylaws of the Colorado Republican Party require Chairman Dick Wadhams to support the nominee ?? even though Maes has no chance and Wadhams urged him to drop out.

    (Please vote in poll to the right in red type. Must vote to see results. Thanks!)

    ??What this poll reveals is the fact John Hickenlooper is clearly a very weak and vulnerable candidate,? Wadhams said. ??He has been stuck at 45 percent in nearly every poll that has been conducted, and that??s with a weak opponent. Without a split on the right, he loses.?

    Though a 10-point lead shouldn??t have Hickenlooper too worried, he should fear that Maes drops out. Why would Maes do that? Because his stories of running a successful business were fake. Short of winning the governor??s race, which isn??t possible, Maes has no job. Imagine if Tancredo??s camp whispers Maes the promise of a mid-level government job in return for dropping from the race. In addition to giving Maes incentive to step aside, it would be an olive branch to his handful of supporters. If something of that sort occurs, say hello to Governor Tancredo ?? of the Constitution Party.

    ??I think anything could happen this year,? Talmey said.

    At least it??s not the boring old politics as usual.

    OUR VIEW: Gov. Tancredo? It could happen (vote here) | view, gov, vote - Opinion - Colorado Springs Gazette, CO


    As most of you are probably aware Tancredo is for legalizing marijuana.

    Tancredo calls for legalizing marijuana « Colorado Independent
    rightwinger Reviewed by rightwinger on . Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper OUR VIEW: Gov. Tancredo? It could happen (vote here) Poll has him within 10 points September 28, 2010 5:46 PM Try saying it, just to see what it??s like: ??Governor Tancredo.? It was far-fetched a few weeks ago, as this column pointed out, but not so much anymore. A Pulse Opinion Research Poll Tuesday showed former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, a Republican running as the Constitution Party candidate, within 10 points of Denver Mayor and Democratic gubernatorial candidate John Rating: 5

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    it's a shame he's such a douche bag otherwise.

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinger


    As most of you are probably aware Tancredo is for legalizing marijuana.
    His voting record in Congress begs to differ.

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
    His voting record in Congress begs to differ.
    I'm sure I'm missing something, but what are you referring to? Isn't tancredo the most pro-legal or pro-mmj candidate?

    Congress Turns its Back on Medical Marijuana -- Again

    Tancredo Votes for Medical Marijuana Bill

    I would like to clarify that I think all politicians are scum.

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Anyone seriously considering voting for this lunatic ought to have their head examined !

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by cologrower420
    I'm sure I'm missing something, but what are you referring to? Isn't tancredo the most pro-legal or pro-mmj candidate?

    Congress Turns its Back on Medical Marijuana -- Again

    Tancredo Votes for Medical Marijuana Bill

    I would like to clarify that I think all politicians are scum.

    Voted YES to disallow states from making their own medical marijuana laws. (Jul 2006)

    Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999)

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
    Voted YES to disallow states from making their own medical marijuana laws. (Jul 2006)

    Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999)
    Thanks. I'm only seeing articles that see him as pro-legalization. Worth looking into.

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    A lot of these right wing Republicans tend towards Libertarianism. Libertarians are not positively pro-legalization as you and I think of it, rather they are staunchly anti government. They don't think government should regulate much of anything. It is all a matter of their particular view of constitutional principals.

    I have heard hard core Libertarians say that it is fine if the last member of a species is killed as government does not have the right to regulate activities such as pollution by industries which might lead to their death. Unregulated commerce is pretty much their ethos.

    While it may sometimes be true that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend', I'd look REAL carefully at the whole package before deciding if this guy is on your side.

    Regarding the Constitutional Party itself (from wikipedia):

    The party's goal as stated in its own words is "to restore our government to its Constitutional limits and our law to its Biblical foundations."


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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeTripper
    A lot of these right wing Republicans tend towards Libertarianism. Libertarians are not positively pro-legalization as you and I think of it, rather they are staunchly anti government. They don't think government should regulate much of anything. It is all a matter of their particular view of constitutional principals.

    I have heard hard core Libertarians say that it is fine if the last member of a species is killed as government does not have the right to regulate activities such as pollution by industries which might lead to their death. Unregulated commerce is pretty much their ethos.

    While it may sometimes be true that 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend', I'd look REAL carefully at the whole package before deciding if this guy is on your side.

    Regarding the Constitutional Party itself (from wikipedia):

    The party's goal as stated in its own words is "to restore our government to its Constitutional limits and our law to its Biblical foundations."

    If you'd care to research it, the heart of most capital L libertarians would prevent them from seeking office and generally being involved in the shitass political arena. Just the act of being a politician goes against most Libertarians views, so it's exceedingly unlikely that a Libertarian would even seek office, let alone get elected.

    I think. I'm sure more educated among us can correct me.

    edit: To qualify, I get most of my libertarian-info from theagitator, fwiw.

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    Polling shows Tancredo gaining on Hickenlooper

    Quote Originally Posted by cologrower420
    If you'd care to research it, the heart of most capital L libertarians would prevent them from seeking office and generally being involved in the shitass political arena. Just the act of being a politician goes against most Libertarians views, so it's exceedingly unlikely that a Libertarian would even seek office, let alone get elected.

    I think. I'm sure more educated among us can correct me.

    edit: To qualify, I get most of my libertarian-info from theagitator, fwiw.
    You are correct, but I was talking about the Right Wing Republican types (and yes, I am painting with a broad brush) who 'tend towards' Libertarianism. Maybe I was a little unclear? What they really like is the non regulatory attitude towards business.

    They are definitely not Libertarians in the 'Big L' sense. It's sort of a pick and choose 'Little L' libertarian trend in their politics. I don't think they share the true Libertarians' fondness for civil liberties though. They are too much into being control freaks for that.

    One of the things the Repubs have been really good at for the last 30 years is finding single issue voters and targeting them to put together winning electoral numbers. They get people so worked up about some social issue or other rhetorical hot button that they vote against their own larger interests.

    My only real point is don't trust Tancredo just because he's pro legalization. I'd say the same thing about George Will, Pat Buchanan, and Bob Barr, etc...

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