100% Confused right now

[medical420mama]

Ok so got the email from swop last nite and then again today apologizing for the typo. Cool i didnt even notice it to begin with. Then i get an email from new mexican with the exact same thing word for word with the exception of the signature. I know i dont follow the stuff a whole lot but isnt SWOP and New Mexican two separate people and if so why do they have the same email?

medical420mama Reviewed by medical420mama on 09-29-2010. 100% Confused right now Ok so got the email from swop last nite and then again today apologizing for the typo. Cool i didnt even notice it to begin with. Then i get an email from new mexican with the exact same thing word for word with the exception of the signature. I know i dont follow the stuff a whole lot but isnt SWOP and New Mexican two separate people and if so why do they have the same email? Rating: 5

[DemingNonProfit]

I would say there is a monopoly right now of producers, thats why 9 of 11 producers are in the guild.I have noticed several of the producers are on other producers boards, i believe this to be a monopoly, I think thats why the DOH has changed the regulations so BOD can only serve on 2 companies, or something to that effect.
thats just my guess though.

[DemingNonProfit]

Although I may very well be wrong about the monopoly, maybe the guild has the patients best interest in mind, although Looking at the inflated Blackmarket prices all these non-profit dispensaries are charging disable people, I really doubt it.
I mean fair market value is based of a inflated black market price.

If you guys made corn illegal tomorrow the prices in a couple months corn would be a 1,000.oo a pound, to consider that black market figure a fair market value is NUTS.

It doesnt cost 4,000.00-5,000.00 to grow a lb of cannabis indoors.
The Producers need to become more efficent, and then pass the savings on to the customers!
..:rastasmoke:

[alfonso2002]

GOOD POINTS Deming

[DemingNonProfit]

Damn you hit the nail on the head Blackhash.:thumbsup:

[BosqueBoy]

My Dad used to say that the best thing you could do with your money was to keep it in your pocket. Bypassing the producers ( who are mostly well meaning but hopelessly overwhelmed) and growing your own medicine serves several purposes.
It is substantially less expensive (in the short and long run). The quality of product is usually as good as the approved producers and quite often better.

There are many patients (a majority) who's dream of growing their own is a hopeless dream because of poor health, situations where growing is impossible, or extreme poverty. Of the 1000+ who have their personal production permits, I would be suprised if a very high percentage were actively producing their own meds.
If you have the ability to grow your own, and don't, If you buy more than you truly need, your'e contributing to the shortages which are so disasterous to those that need the medicine the most.
Keep your money in your pocket, and let those with no other recourse go to the head of the line. You'll feel better. They'll feel better. And perhaps we can positively affect the outcome of the shortages we're experiencing...BB

[JohnMonad]

I know many of the people and Producers in the Producers Guild.
My feeling from speaking to them is they absolutely put this organization together for the benefit of the patients.
The 11 producers and whomever comes next don't feel they are in competition with each other. After all, they can only grow 95 plants at one time and get X amount of yield from them. As we have seen from the past, they sell out immediately all they can grow because of the current ratio of patients to Producers.
Imagine if they can coordinate their grow cycles and harvests so there will always be medicine available to patients within 24 hours of ordering. Instead of having to wait a few weeks or a few months.
My feeling is the Guild will be a positive thing for us all.
Lets give these passionate pioneers a chance.

[DemingNonProfit]

I would say very ill patients(cancer, aids,) are the ones most likely unable to grow their own, due to health problems, and most likely poverty due to medical costs from their health problems.

How in the world are terminally ill patients to afford the average 370.00$ on ounce price tag. Almost 6,000.00$ a pound.

As blackhash and myself can attest to it doesnt cost anywhere near what the producers are charging to produce cannabis. Close to 6,000.00$ A pound.

I wonder what kind of salaries these Board of Director members are receiving?

I am not saying the producers should work for free,they should receive a reasonable compensation, but 6,000.00 a pound, they are just bending the sick patients of New Mexico over a table.

I think the DOH should regulate what board members are allowed to take home for compensation.

I would also have to disagree most of these non profits are well meaning, if they were, they wouldn't be charging these BLACK MARKET INFLATED PRICES!
Period!
The dispensaries may tell people they have gotten into this to "help" people, but I don't think selling somebody who is desperately ill medicine for close to 400.oo an ounce when it only costs around 30.oo$ to produce that same ounce.
Thats helping people?

[DemingNonProfit]

I just heard about this group the other day. This is NOT good for the patients.

Sorry to say, folks, but "cheap" meds just aren't coming via this model. These folks are basing their BUSINESS MODELS on $400 an ounce and once they get a taste of that type of cash they won't be lowering those prices.

Here in CO there is more pot available for sale than I've >>ever<< seen in my life, yet the only place the prices have FALLEN is in the wholesale pricing arena.

On a retail level the dispensaries are priced at the same prices they were when they sprung up like flies on s___ last Summer, even though the behind the scenes prices have fallen well over $1200 per pound. The dispensary game here is signing up as many new folks as they can - qualified or not...to be able to grab their card and grow with it and sell them high-priced meds all day long.

such is why we must get folks GROWING. If you rely on this producer model i'm gonna have to send you some VASELINE cus...um...well... do i have to SPELL IT OUT???

blackhash

:smokebong:
Im glad someone gets it.

[BosqueBoy]

I'm currently serving on two boards. I don't know how other producers compensate their board members, but neither of the ones I serve have any structure set up to pay board members. Besides basic expenses and the ability to sample the product, I can't see why paying a board member would be necessary....BB