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09-27-2010, 08:21 PM #5Junior Member
one 2x4 or two 2x2 grow tents.. what would be best
oldmac here is a complete layout of the room iam building in a fruit cellar in my basement i did some re-adjustments and was able to remove the old wall and build a new wall and door moved out as much as i could and this is the layout iam going to go with, whatcha think? thanks again
Originally Posted by oldmac
Hey TJ,
Need to ask you if this is an exsisting walk-in closet or if you are sectioning off a larger area? I'm assumming from the diagrams that this is a closet, and that you have decided to build little rooms or boxes in it rather then go the grow tent route. If that's the case it's a great idea, you can build alot vs. the cost of a tent.
First you need to decide on a grow style to fit your needs and area. 3-4 oz a month is not a great deal but there are various ways to get there. I see two choices; 1- sorta do what is indicated in your diagram, 4 flowering plants, 4 vegging plants and rooting 4 cuttings for clones (skip keeping moms). With an aprox 8 week flower time for an indica, you would have 8 weeks for vegging your plant. But you must top it a few times to make as many grow tips/branches as possible in that time. 2-consider doing SCROG (screen of green) and place 4 plants in the 24"x52" area, place a 24x52 screen above them and continue to veg for awhile there to fill up the screen with branches/growing tips, then switch it to flower.
As StinkyAttic used to preach to the unwashed masses here: "It's all about the canopy". Meaning you want to create a dense, fairly even green canopy, so you get the most out of your light.
So 1- gets you buds every 8 weeks or 2- gets you more bud but takes a little longer. May choice would be #2 probably.
To your questions;
1) If you clone and veg in the same area you are committed to a 24hr photoperiod, since almost everybody agrees that clones need 24hr, low level, blue dominate light. ("Roots grow where it's dark, but not when it is dark") While it will not hurt the plant to veg 24/0 it may not be the most cost effective. For vegging most people prefer 18/6 photoperiod. This ties into your question 4.
4) Clones don't need much light, or area to do it. A single 2' T5 fixture w/6500K bulb is enough light to root abt 40 or more cuttings. MH bulbs throw alot of heat, you would be better vegging with the T5s. I would be tempted to build a box 2'x4'4"x abt 4' tall on that side of the closet and light it with either a 4' 8 bulb HO fixture or 4' 4 bulb set up driven to VHO levels with say an IceCap ballast. The ballast could sit on top of the box. You could do your clones also on top of that box. I would connect the boxes with a 4" hose and cheap 4" "duct booster" fan, to turn on during the 6 hrs the vegging plants are dark, to the flower box during thier photoperiod (light is on). It will add to the ambient CO2 level.
2 & 3) The two 400w HPS would give you a better light footprint for that rectanular area, but they are very wastefull. One 600w HPS will actually give you more intial lumens then the two 400s and save you over 200 watts. I would go the 600w route and use a light rail. I would skip the cool tube and use an air cooled hood, it will give you a sharper footprint (front to back). I would also consider cooling the bulb with the flower room air and exhaust to a decent size fan and some sort of odor control (either charcoal can filter or an inline ozone scrubber).
Just another thought or two. I would use a 2' T5 Actinic 454 white bulb instead of the 6500k tube to root cuttings. It is very blue light and roots seem to love it. I would also start at least 6 cuttings and as soon as the first 4 rooted or the best 4 of 6 rooted I'd shit can the others to stay legal. I'm not convinced they can really count an unrooted cutting as a clone.
Hope I'm helping you and not confusing you, but I'm around if you want to kick some more ideas around or if you have more questions. :thumbsup:
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