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    #11
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    I was really looking forward to reading this when I got in on Monday. Now I wish I hadn't wasted my time.

    I'm working overtime every week, contacting city council members in what little private time I have, to fight for caregivers that probably hurt our business.

    We wonder why caregivers are always getting the shaft? No one wants to pitch in, they want one big "bitch in" where they complain about the government and how nothing gets changed.

    Any restrictions on plants is as moronic as it is illegal. But it's going to be the law for a short while until it gets challenged. Who's going to sue, though? All of the lawyers representing MMC's? The same ones who swore they were going to sue after 1284? Don't hold your collective breath.

    Realistically, I get it. Some of you prefer to stay underground, don't care about any regulations, are off the "grid." I don't wish any of you ill-will or busts. As Russell Simmons would say, "Do you!"

    For those who do this legally, have registered patients, and want a voice: I'm willing to keep harassing these council members. They're pretty receptive when you're not calling them a "Nazi Bitch" and focus on the truth, something they unfortunately know little about.

    The next special issues committee meets on Wednesday. See what you can get done before then.

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    I'm not in Denver or I would have thought more about this. I think you are right though - people DO want to remain anonymous. Especially the patients that are with caregivers. Some are people that would never consider even showing ID at a Center, let alone sending their address to one of the most anti-mmj people on Denver City Council. When I saw you post, I was really glad to see you do it, but was highly afraid you would experience what you just did.

    It's the chris bartkowicz / 9news, full spectrum / state legislature effect. Chris may be as good an example as full spectrum labs, but its not like people that have stood up haven't had their asses handed to them. Even word of trouble can cost jobs in some situations.

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter
    I was really looking forward to reading this when I got in on Monday. Now I wish I hadn't wasted my time.

    I'm working overtime every week, contacting city council members in what little private time I have, to fight for caregivers that probably hurt our business.

    We wonder why caregivers are always getting the shaft? No one wants to pitch in, they want one big "bitch in" where they complain about the government and how nothing gets changed.

    Any restrictions on plants is as moronic as it is illegal. But it's going to be the law for a short while until it gets challenged. Who's going to sue, though? All of the lawyers representing MMC's? The same ones who swore they were going to sue after 1284? Don't hold your collective breath.

    Realistically, I get it. Some of you prefer to stay underground, don't care about any regulations, are off the "grid." I don't wish any of you ill-will or busts. As Russell Simmons would say, "Do you!"

    For those who do this legally, have registered patients, and want a voice: I'm willing to keep harassing these council members. They're pretty receptive when you're not calling them a "Nazi Bitch" and focus on the truth, something they unfortunately know little about.

    The next special issues committee meets on Wednesday. See what you can get done before then.
    see now this is where i gotta find my happy place...it shouldnt be illegal, period. end of discussion. underground is gone in "dispensary land" can i get a small c with a circle around it...copryright. you know mickey and minney got high right? comon it was all over the tabloids for real though i get what your saying although i think some of us maybe changing tactics. educating people so they can vote is the key. your endless parries with politicians fall on deaf ears for the most part.

    vote for meded
    meded, so you can mededicate to mededitate

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan
    watch out - you're speaking a bit too much truth. people can't handle that....

    yeah ive heard there is a high population creatures in the US called ostriches

    meded is a hell of a drug
    meded, so you can mededicate to mededitate

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    #15
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
    Just to make sure we're on the same page here, you're saying members of the Denver City Council such as Jeanne Robb are able to access patients info from The Dept Of Health?
    if you have a paper trail, someone can access it. it might not be so blatant though it is there. just like bank accounts, emails and everything else we sign write say. all i need is money and i can trace you to your address knock on your door and call you by your first name. dont assume that this wont happen its just a matter of time for supreme regulation and when the feds get their ok it probably will happen, ive already seen job openings for auditors and the like...this is just the start


    meded for one meded for all
    meded, so you can mededicate to mededitate

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackhash
    not hatin on anyone but those who think they are going to take my rights away.

    "think' being the key word.

    I grew for 20 years before A20. I have no plans to stop, "legal" or not.

    i feel you on that note but they can and they might.



    meded for life.......its ok were taking it back:thumbsup:
    meded, so you can mededicate to mededitate

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by copobo
    I'm not in Denver or I would have thought more about this. I think you are right though - people DO want to remain anonymous. Especially the patients that are with caregivers. Some are people that would never consider even showing ID at a Center, let alone sending their address to one of the most anti-mmj people on Denver City Council. When I saw you post, I was really glad to see you do it, but was highly afraid you would experience what you just did.

    It's the chris bartkowicz / 9news, full spectrum / state legislature effect. Chris may be as good an example as full spectrum labs, but its not like people that have stood up haven't had their asses handed to them. Even word of trouble can cost jobs in some situations.
    I wish I could dispel the notion that council members would maliciously go after a legal Colorado MMJ patient. There is nothing I can do about the tinfoil hats, I just wish they'd quit with their own brand of propaganda scaring patients out of their right to be heard in all of this.

    Of the 100,000's of patients, they hear from a fraction of a percent. Which is why they think it's de facto legalization. SMH.

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    #18
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    I'm going to contact you away from here regarding what you're requesting.

    However, I think the privacy concern is valid.

    For example, the aurora sentinel published a map of 'home grows', I think their 7-22 edition. I'm not certain. I know there was a thread here, and the map was never posted online that I know of, there's only a cell pic if it, in that thread. The paper never sourced where they got their info (maybe aurora pd), and we have to assume the dept. of health didn't release the info.

    What could possibly be the source of that information? This is a paranoid crowd that you're asking for this info from.

    With that said, people like you don't get enough respect, the ones in the trenches and behind the scenes, even working for those who don't understand that you're on the same team.

    Apathy and ignorance are difficult barriers to overcome, good luck and thank you.

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    #19
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    If you have a patient that doesn't include their address, at least have them include their district. At that point we can start calling out council members specifically.

    Thanks for the kind words, Colo. It would theoretically be better for our business if caregivers were victims of this de facto ban, but we're trying to do right by everyone protected in A20, not just 1284.

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Caregivers, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter
    If you have a patient that doesn't include their address, at least have them include their district. At that point we can start calling out council members specifically.

    Thanks for the kind words, Colo. It would theoretically be better for our business if caregivers were victims of this de facto ban, but we're trying to do right by everyone protected in A20, not just 1284.
    Hopefully caregivers will soon realize that there are MMC's who care about the cause, not everyone is a stanley-clone.

    The relationship between caregivers and MMC's shouldn't be an adversarial one.

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