I wouldn't claim them to be the best, as any light can be remade. and hipEstoner, they will be at almost any hydro store, online or local. I find that it is not the light, as they are really basically the same, but the fixture. How good does it reflect? if it is air cooled how efective is it? I personally use sun systems for my most "upscale" lamp. but most of my lights are just 400 and 1000 watt econo fixtures from insidesun. but I don't use them any more because of there bad service of late
a shame, they had good prices