ok so onece again i find the answers to my questions while reading older posts.. disregard all questions... but still major props... I will keep my mouth shut till i read for 5 more days or so... after 4 books, mags, vids, internet vids, and all the reading i have done here, i still feel like a puppy with a new toy (not to mention my own limited experience.. agh what experience) again you are all excellent, and the older people i don't see posts from ( i have been going back to oldest posts i can find and working up) all excellent, this forum puts JC to shame, loved the book, but more is covered here for anyone that just keeps reading