The Bible

[Nullific]

Wow you must have taken Biology in highschool with chemistry and physics, I have too but I wouldn't call myself an authorative figure on any of these sciences nor the evolution of man.
Humans and apes for that matter are still evolving and you should know it doesn't happen overnight. Over the next million years humans will become taller, balder and waker. Hooray!

Moving on, I hate organized religions, and the Bible for that matter.
I am not against spirituality or belief in God, if thats your thing go for it but there is no reason children should be lied to and have religion forced upon them at a young age.
If you want an example of the problems organized religion causes...look at the middle east.

As for the bible, im quoting Bill Hicks for the second time today.

Fundamentalist Christianity - fascinating. These people actually believe that the the world is 12,000 years old. Swear to God. Based on what? I asked them.

â??Well we looked at all the people in the Bible and we added â??em up
all the way back to Adam and Eve, their ages: 12,000 years.â?�

Well how fucking scientific, okay. I didnâ??t know that youâ??d gone to so much trouble. Thatâ??s good. You believe the worldâ??s 12,000 years old?

â??Thatâ??s right.â?�

Okay, I got one word to ask you, a one word question, ready?

â??Uh-huh.â?�

Dinosaurs.

You know the world is 12,000 years old and dinosaurs existed, they existed in that time, youâ??d think it would have been mentioned in the fucking Bible at some point.

â??And lo Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurusâ?¦ with a splinter in his paw. And O the disciples did run a shriekinâ??: â??What a big fucking lizard, Lord!â??
But Jesus was unafraid and he took the splinter from the brontosaurusâ??s paw and the big lizard became his friend.

â??And Jesus sent him to Scotland where he lived in a loch for O so many years inviting thousands of American tourists to bring their fat fucking families and their fat dollar bills.

â??And oh Scotland did praise the Lord. Thank you Lord, thank you Lord. Thank you Lord.â?�

Get this, I actually asked one of these guys: OK, dinosaur fossils â?? how does that fit into your scheme of life? Let me sit down and strap in. He said, "Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith." Thank God I'm strapped in right now here, man. I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. You believe that? "Uh-huh." Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God ... might be ... fucking with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around: "Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha ha. I am God, I am a prankster. I am killing Me." You know, you die and go to St. Peter: "Did you believe in dinosaurs?" "Well, yeah. There were fossils everywhere. Aaaaaaarhhh!" "You fucking idiot! Flying lizards? You're a moron. God was fucking with you!" "It seemed so plausible, ahhhh!" "Enjoy the lake of fire, fucker!"

Nullific Reviewed by Nullific on 04-22-2005. The Bible Do you believe what the Bible says? How do you know all of the information in it is true? Who actually wrote the Bible? I was watching a program my friend tapped from the history channel, it was about a bunch of scientists discussing the bible and religion, and telling the truth about it all and saying why most of it is a hoax. And of course i was stoned out of my mind and i decided to chat about it in the forums. Well me perosnally, i don't believe what the bible says, and i'm not Rating: 5

[SmokinThaHaze]

[QUOTE=Nullific]Wow you must have taken Biology in highschool with chemistry and physics, I have too but I wouldn't call myself an authorative figure on any of these sciences nor the evolution of man.
Humans and apes for that matter are still evolving and you should know it doesn't happen overnight. Over the next million years humans will become taller, balder and waker. Hooray!



i never quoted myself as an authorative figure man, but he said i needed to read a biology book so i told him i didnt need to cuz of my credentials....... but the whole evolving thing yea man u r right we are evolving slowly, but u guys always stray away frum the main question asked-------- y arent apes still evolving into humans, u guyz moved on to talk about human evolution....

[F L E S H]

You don't understand, do you.... We've evolved from 'pre-humans'. The creature we evolved from obviously doesn't exist anymore. Chimps and humans have differentiated millions of years ago, and chimps will never evolve into humans.

Besides, do you think tomorrow morning, in some jungle in Africa, a Human will magically be born to some ape? Evolution takes millions of years. No one could ever 'see' evolution take place. That's why it's called a theory, not because it might be wrong, but because we can't see it happen in front of us. If we were to notice a change in our lifetime, that's called mutation, and it's a totally different thing.

[Nullific]

The way bacteria become immune to anti-biotics some would say is evolution.

[ermitonto]

The same reason they aren't evolving into lizards or penguins...human traits work for humans, ape traits work for apes, penguin traits work for penguins. Get it? What benefit would apes get from walking on two legs and losing all their hair? It would be harder for them to walk and for young apes to cling to their mothers.

The exact motives for why humans evolved the way they did are still debated by scientists. There's universal consensus in the field that human evolution did happen (except for a few fringe "researchers" trying to prove that the Bible is literal fact and God did indeed put dinosaur fossils here to fuck with our heads), but the exact circumstances behind the evolution isn't known for sure. There are many interesting interpretations of the evidence, like the aquatic ape hypothesis that humans were semi-aquatic animals at some point.

Humans have plenty of features which are totally useless for us but which are useful in animals related to us. For example, the cebaceous glands meant to keep fur slick now do nothing and just cause problems for us since they are the cause of acne. We have a tailbone, but we don't have a tail anymore. And pinky toes...other primates can use theirs for grabbing and such but in humans they do absolutely nothing for us.

And the number one evidence for evolution....FOSSILS! If you reject evolution and don't want to put forth the claim that God is just fucking with our heads, then homo sapiens and homo erectus and homo habilis and homo australopithecus and homo neanderthalensis must have all lived contemporarily with each other (and with pterodactyls and brontosauri and trilobytes) AND were all able to maintain their populations despite all the competition from the other species, even though carbon dating shows them to be from separate periods in time and you have no explanation why all those other homo species aren't around anymore. I find that hardly believable.

[Nullific]

B-b-but all the water from when God floodedd the earth makes your evil scientific carbon dating inaccurate!!!!!
MAN AND DINO COEXISTED PEACEFULLY GOD SAID SO!

(On a more serious note good info)

[weirdo79]

We have the same common ancestor, We did not evolve "from" monkeys or apes (although we fit the criteria for its classification) we evolved from the same common ancestor of such primates. We are Hominids. We come from genus Australopithecus and so do apes. The transitional species (Australopithecus) existed during the Pleistocene era and was quite the successful primate.

P.S. There is genetic similarities between almost all life on earth (except some spore based lifeforms) that share most of the genetic markers of "life" on earth thus insinuating that almost all life is connected genetically(yes plants too) and thus would have evolved to every other form. We all come from the primordial ooze...Deal with it. No man in the sky waving his omnipotent arms....Chance , Circumstance and evolution.

[Stedric]

We have the same common ancestor, We did not evolve "from" monkeys or apes (although we fit the criteria for its classification) we evolved from the same common ancestor of such primates. We are Hominids. We come from genus Australopithecus and so do apes. The transitional species (Australopithecus) existed during the Pleistocene era and was quite the successful primate.

P.S. There is genetic similarities between almost all life on earth (except some spore based lifeforms) that share most of the genetic markers of "life" on earth thus insinuating that almost all life is connected genetically(yes plants too) and thus would have evolved to every other form. We all come from the primordial ooze...Deal with it. No man in the sky waving his omnipotent arms....Chance , Circumstance and evolution.

I will of course side more with you than Creationists, but I think there is more to life than what Science can explain (at least Scientific Knowledge up to this point). Now am I going to chalk this up to a big bearded man in the clouds wagging his finger at me and threatening me with eternal pain and suffering? No, but I still think there is more to life than what we see and feel.

[F L E S H]

I will of course side more with you than Creationists, but I think there is more to life than what Science can explain (at least Scientific Knowledge up to this point). Now am I going to chalk this up to a big bearded man in the clouds wagging his finger at me and threatening me with eternal pain and suffering? No, but I still think there is more to life than what we see and feel.

You might be right. Sure, evolution is an explanation for how things happened, but it doesn't tell us how it began. If there's any place in science for God, of whatever supreme being that floats your boat, it's there. How could a spec of molecules come together and make the first living cell? That is the ultimate questin to which we still don't know the answer, but will one day, I'm sure. That's why it's important studying things like Saturn's moon Titan, which scientists believe has an atmosphere that is evolving almost the same way Earth's did. Maybe we can one day see how the first cell is born there, or maybe it's already there...