update on plants

[OaklandCA420]

What is your experience level? first time on my own (helped friends in past)

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. CFL's 23 watt. (100 watt equivalent) 2 over each plant.
.2) Distance from tops? 3-4 inches
.3) Reflector type? surrounded by white walls
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? 2 fans on 24/7 (1 coming in, 1 out)
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? just 2 circulation fans
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 100 watt equivalent each, 5000 kelvin, on 18/6 cycle. On at 645AM. off at 1245AM

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil- Miracle-Gro garden soil for flowers and vegetables. 0.15 - 0.05 - 0.10 with peat, peat moss, rice hulls. slow release nutrients. with added miracle gro perlite. 1/3 perlite, 2/3 soil
.8) Size of container. 11 inches wide by 10 inches deep. (about 3 gallons)
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? no.

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? tap. What's it's ph before adjusting? 6.5 i leave water out for 48 hours to kill harmfull chemicals (chlorine) and to meet room temp.
11) Method of checking water ph color test kit
12) Method of adjusting water ph solution(up and down)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. have not bought nutrients but i was looking into jacks classics all purpose 20-20-20 for veg. and jacks classics blossom booster 10-30-20
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? usually every three days, sometimes four. whenever soil feels like it needs it. usually about a cup for each plant.
15) Any additives or tea's? superthrive. every other watering. 1 drop to each cup.
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? not sure!
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? not sure!
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? no. just spray plain water to leaves.

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? closet
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? 85 degrees and bout 65% humidity...With lights off? 75 degrees 50% humidity
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? nope

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? indica dominant. (la confidential (100%), cheese (80%), and romulan (75%)
24) From seeds or clones? la from seed, other 2 from clones
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no
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i got my cheese clone about 5 days ago and just got out of shock from the transplant into its new medium so that is why it is not looking 100% right now.


here are some pictures.
from left to right.....la confidential (45 days old) cheese (5 days old) romulan (30 days old) and the last picture is my la confidential.

OaklandCA420 Reviewed by OaklandCA420 on 09-14-2010. update on plants What is your experience level? first time on my own (helped friends in past) Your Equipment: .1) Type and wattage of lights. CFL's 23 watt. (100 watt equivalent) 2 over each plant. .2) Distance from tops? 3-4 inches .3) Reflector type? surrounded by white walls .4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? 2 fans on 24/7 (1 coming in, 1 out) .5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? just 2 circulation fans .6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 100 watt Rating: 5

[Rusty Trichome]

Usually members forget the pictures...but was there a question...?

[OaklandCA420]

Usually members forget the pictures...but was there a question...?

yea my first picture is my la confidential plant. its a seed and is over a month old now. it has branches growing now and the fat leaves you see in the picture are the leaves right next to each branch.
should i cut these leaves off to get more light onto the branches?
they are completely blocking them

[Rusty Trichome]

"Drop the scissors, and step away from the plant".

The large leaves are refered to as fan leaves. They store the nutrients and minerals, and photosynthesize like crazy, using light and chlorophyll to convert CO2 and H20 into sugars. (Readers Digest version) Removing them unnecessarily, isn't a good idea. Stunts growth and stresses the ladies.

Some gardeners trim the undergrowth because they feel it's a wasteful expenditure of the plants energy, but I leave 'em and use 'em after harvest for the re-veg process. (Rusty's Bonsai Downsizing thread)

But, to remove the fans to unshade the undergrowth is counter-productive. The fans are more important. :thumbsup:
(some exceptions may apply, like the Screen of Green technique...)

[OaklandCA420]

"Drop the scissors, and step away from the plant".

The large leaves are refered to as fan leaves. They store the nutrients and minerals, and photosynthesize like crazy, using light and chlorophyll to convert CO2 and H20 into sugars. (Readers Digest version) Removing them unnecessarily, isn't a good idea. Stunts growth and stresses the ladies.

Some gardeners trim the undergrowth because they feel it's a wasteful expenditure of the plants energy, but I leave 'em and use 'em after harvest for the re-veg process. (Rusty's Bonsai Downsizing thread)

But, to remove the fans to unshade the undergrowth is counter-productive. The fans are more important. :thumbsup:
(some exceptions may apply, like the Screen of Green technique...)

fasho i hear where you are coming from. but it seems all my branches are growing under my fan leaves. is this going to become a problem? or will the branches just kind of push the fan leaves away

[Rusty Trichome]

Neither. The top growth will stretch, more nodes will form, more branching and fan leaves will grow from those nodes...
That fan leaf will always be right there, in it's assigned spot. New growth will grow above it, and you'll forget all about the undergrowth. (hopefully)

I used to worry about it many years ago. In the past I've trimmed them out of the way, twisty-tied them back, cut the fingers in half to allow SOME light to the undergrowth. But all that does is stunt the plant, and injure her unnecessarily.

Let her do her thing. She'll be fine. :thumbsup:

[OaklandCA420]

Neither. The top growth will stretch, more nodes will form, more branching and fan leaves will grow from those nodes...
That fan leaf will always be right there, in it's assigned spot. New growth will grow above it, and you'll forget all about the undergrowth. (hopefully)

I used to worry about it many years ago. In the past I've trimmed them out of the way, twisty-tied them back, cut the fingers in half to allow SOME light to the undergrowth. But all that does is stunt the plant, and injure her unnecessarily.

Let her do her thing. She'll be fine. :thumbsup:

fasho thanks. by the way how do you get a picture next to your forum name?

[Rusty Trichome]

Near the top of the page you'll see a "User CP" button. Hit that, and it'll take you to the page where you can change settings, add a signature, upload an avatar...

[Doc401]

Hiya OaklandCA420, I have always tied my branches back with string to let more light through, has worked well for me but i think i will take Rusty's advice with my next grow because he is a true master at this and he would never tell anyone wrong. But i will say also never cut them fan leaves!!!!

Good luck bud, and happy growing..:thumbsup: