I have had good results with Botanicare products. I use the pro grow and liquid karma during veg then liquid karma, pro bloom, hydroplex, bud candy, and black strap molasis during flower in my ebb and flows. I use tap water so no cal mag but if your using RO water you need cal mag or cal mag plus. Dutchmaster liquid light and penetrator are great for a foliar spray as well. Hope this helps. Good Luck and keep trying no matter what the results. If you do something wrong you will learn to correct as you go. :rasta: