Quality has really taken a plunge!

[cologrower420]

William Breathes, the pot critic for westword, was quoted as saying his top five strains are:

Diesel Haze
White Fire
Killer Queen
Cough
Super Silver Haze

I have found a couple of these strains, but I'd like some input from people on where to buy good samples of these strains.

Where can I buy White Fire? I've never seen it before.

[Zedleppelin]

William Breathes, the pot critic for westword, was quoted as saying his top five strains are:

Diesel Haze
White Fire
Killer Queen
Cough
Super Silver Haze

I have found a couple of these strains, but I'd like some input from people on where to buy good samples of these strains.

Where can I buy White Fire? I've never seen it before.

Probably from your neighborhood underground grower thanks to 1284.

[dankzilla86]

White fire was at herbal elements so sad its gone, but i still have a fat nug of white sittin around can't wait to indulge in it.

[cologrower420]

Probably from your neighborhood underground grower thanks to 1284.

Nah, none of my 'neighborhood underground grower(s) thanks to 1284' could ever grow MMC quality medicine, and the ones that do aren't going to do so for much longer.

Since I am snobbish and require top 1% quality, I'm stuck with MMC's. As caregiver inventory is sold by MMC's, quality will go down, but there will always be a few places that carry solid medicine.

It looks like growing my own medicine is my best option moving forward, but as you know it's going to be difficult to grow the quality of medicine I'm looking for.

[HighPopalorum]

White fire? Back in Alabama we had something called white lightning, but I think that's a little different...

[Zedleppelin]

Nah, none of my 'neighborhood underground grower(s) thanks to 1284' could ever grow MMC quality medicine, and the ones that do aren't going to do so for much longer.

Since I am snobbish and require top 1% quality, I'm stuck with MMC's. As caregiver inventory is sold by MMC's, quality will go down, but there will always be a few places that carry solid medicine.

It looks like growing my own medicine is my best option moving forward, but as you know it's going to be difficult to grow the quality of medicine I'm looking for.

Keep telling yourself that while you pay over $60 an eighth for mediocrity while I enjoy my Super Lemon Haze that dispensaries still call me for.

[HighPopalorum]

Keep telling yourself that while you pay over $60 an eighth for mediocrity while I enjoy my Super Lemon Haze that dispensaries still call me for.

C'mon Zed. You don't know what he buys or where he shops. How do you know it's mediocre? How do you know how much his medicine costs? To make specific statements from a position of general ignorance is silly and makes you appear a fool. I could just as well make the same claims about your "Super Lemon Haze" and they would be equally ridiculous.

[blackhash]

Nah, none of my 'neighborhood underground grower(s) thanks to 1284' could ever grow MMC quality medicine, and the ones that do aren't going to do so for much longer.

Why do you believe they "aren't going to do so for much longer", 420?

[cologrower420]

Keep telling yourself that while you pay over $60 an eighth for mediocrity while I enjoy my Super Lemon Haze that dispensaries still call me for.

I don't pay over $60 an eighth, that would be silly.

I don't understand why everyone is so adversarial in this industry, why all of the hate and vitriol. It's confusing to me why there is still this 'us vs them' mentality, even among those in our industry. This whole attitude is precisely why 1284/109 got passed. God knows there are enough growers and smokers in this state that we easily could have something better than this legislation. Until this attitude changes, things will get worse before they get better.

Keep encouraging this though, it has done wonders for our cause the last six months.

Nah, none of my 'neighborhood underground grower(s) thanks to 1284' could ever grow MMC quality medicine, and the ones that do aren't going to do so for much longer.
Why do you believe they "aren't going to do so for much longer", 420?

I'm talking about my ideal caregiver, someone who grows and produces top quality medicine, similar to what I pay for top shelf, top 1% quality-wise at an MMC. Someone who probably made a decent living before being limited to 5 patients.

I guess my point is, it's going to be awfully difficult for these types of caregivers to continue to grow with only 5 patients and not being allowed to sell to MMC's. What caregiver would attempt to make a profit by only having 5 patients and 36 plants, max? What caregiver would stay in this business if they were non-profit?

I'm not interested in higher plant recommendations or anything else that caregivers might use to grow more, I'm only talking about 36 plants at most, half in flower. I'm only talking about for-profit caregivers.

edit: unless a caregiver held auditions for the highest volume patients, I don't see a solution for them anymore. That seems unlikely.

What's your opinion? Do you think they'll stop growing? I'm curious, I think you have more experience with caregivers than I do. Hopefully quality doesn't suffer for patients in the short term.

[Zedleppelin]

C'mon Zed. You don't know what he buys or where he shops. How do you know it's mediocre? How do you know how much his medicine costs? To make specific statements from a position of general ignorance is silly and makes you appear a fool. I could just as well make the same claims about your "Super Lemon Haze" and they would be equally ridiculous.

My position is based on almost 10 years in this industry as a patient, dispensary owner and a caregiver, and before that almost 20 years as an advocate, so if thats how you define ignorance then so be it. I spoke with an owner/friend yesterday about this very subject and it seems what 1284 has done at this point is put the smaller centers in a position where they cannot obtain quality meds and the ones that can are getting them on the black market. Since the beginning of Sept I have had more dispensaries call me looking than before, and one asked if I knew where to get 100 lbs, so what does that say? All these centers are desperate and willing to break the law to survive. Maybe as time goes on these centers grows will eventually satisfy the market but right now they are not.