can't pin down the issue

[devilvenom]

first pic is of some bubba kush i'm vegging, second pics are hasberry 4 weeks in, had green leafs a 10 days ago. Using house and garden soil nutes, roots excelorator, budxl, top shooter, shooting powder, molasses. i only used ph water, root excelorator on the bubba for the first few weeks then i started adding the H&G A+B and that when i got the discoloration, but only on some of the top leafs.
Same with the hashberrys they started budding outdoor so i transplanted from 1/2gallon to 2 gallon, threw them indoor and watered with ph water and roots excelorator, stayed nice and green for 5 days then switched to the feed schedule and got the slow yellowing. but as you can see its effected the whole plant.
i thought maybe the molasses my be throwing of my soil ph, and don't feel it could be N def since it was fresh soil at least for the hashberrys. as far as my bubba go's its only effecting some of the newer top fan leafs.
any ideas? any body else experience this with the same nutes?

devilvenom Reviewed by devilvenom on 09-01-2010. can't pin down the issue first pic is of some bubba kush i'm vegging, second pics are hasberry 4 weeks in, had green leafs a 10 days ago. Using house and garden soil nutes, roots excelorator, budxl, top shooter, shooting powder, molasses. i only used ph water, root excelorator on the bubba for the first few weeks then i started adding the H&G A+B and that when i got the discoloration, but only on some of the top leafs. Same with the hashberrys they started budding outdoor so i transplanted from 1/2gallon to 2 Rating: 5

[valstar]

Essential Plant Nutrients - Grasscity.com Forums

By looking at the pics in the link my guess would be the zinc and boron pic looks very similar to your pic.

Phosphorus looks similar too. Im not expert just comparing pics.

[devilvenom]

thanks for the link, helped me find a solution with the better pics, think its magnesium def, so gonna try some calmag see if it clears it up. i'm feeling better already.

[WashougalWonder]

You really should fill out the trouble shooting form. What is "ph water"? Do you mean Reverse Osmosis? RO does remove all minerals and you might be causing a deficiency of mag, I know I did and it looked similar. But if you mean ph stabilized regular water, then there is a different issue, not a mag def, which the plants really do not need a lot of.

So, fill out the form so the smart dudes can help ya more than I!

[seventhchild]

You really should fill out the trouble shooting form. What is "ph water"? Do you mean Reverse Osmosis? RO does remove all minerals and you might be causing a deficiency of mag, I know I did and it looked similar. But if you mean ph stabilized regular water, then there is a different issue, not a mag def, which the plants really do not need a lot of.

So, fill out the form so the smart dudes can help ya more than I!

100% what she said.........FILL OUT THE FORM.........no more nutes until you get more info...you may be over feeding

[WashougalWonder]

100% what she said.........

Chile' I am a male, so she is not quite right....I am sure it was just an extra key strike.

Have an awesome day.

[Rusty Trichome]

I just don't understand why folks with no experience add everything under the sun without knowing how or why. Personally, I wouoldn't trust a company that offered a myriad of unnecessary crap. AN is another company that has a cure for every ailment, and a cure for the damage from the original 'cure'. Always keep in mind...A profit-driven company can get rather creative in instilling fear of failure in the beginning gardener. It's how they turn a profit.

Do you understand when to use and how to apply the 2-part nutrients?
How about the additives? Did you NEED the Shooting Powder, which mentions "Please ensure that you correctly select your Shooting Powder option, as incorrect use could have detrimental affects to plant health", or did you just get one of everything, and add as directed?

I'd recommend that you flush well, cut everything back to the basics, and quit with all the extra bullshit. Most are unnecessary, and more often than not...it causes more problems than they solve. All you really need (till you get used to the growing process) is your base nutrients (A&B) and a working schedule. I'm not familiar with the H&G nutes, but you might need a sourse of micronutrients. Likely you've got their "micronutrient" product already, but if not, unsulphered molasses fit's that role @ 1 tsp per gallon of properly ph'd water once a week. (the molasses has Calcium, Magnesium, Iron and micronutrients)

The yellowing of the new growth is likely a sign that it's attempting to adapt to the conditions you've created with the additives.

Learn to walk before you try to run.

[seventhchild]

I just don't understand why folks with no experience add everything under the sun without knowing how or why. Personally, I wouoldn't trust a company that offered a myriad of unnecessary crap. AN is another company that has a cure for every ailment, and a cure for the damage from the original 'cure'. Always keep in mind...A profit-driven company can get rather creative in instilling fear of failure in the beginning gardener. It's how they turn a profit.

Do you understand when to use and how to apply the 2-part nutrients?
How about the additives? Did you NEED the Shooting Powder, which mentions "Please ensure that you correctly select your Shooting Powder option, as incorrect use could have detrimental affects to plant health", or did you just get one of everything, and add as directed?

I'd recommend that you flush well, cut everything back to the basics, and quit with all the extra bullshit. Most are unnecessary, and more often than not...it causes more problems than they solve. All you really need (till you get used to the growing process) is your base nutrients (A&B) and a working schedule. I'm not familiar with the H&G nutes, but you might need a sourse of micronutrients. Likely you've got their "micronutrient" product already, but if not, unsulphered molasses fit's that role @ 1 tsp per gallon of properly ph'd water once a week. (the molasses has Calcium, Magnesium, Iron and micronutrients)

The yellowing of the new growth is likely a sign that it's attempting to adapt to the conditions you've created with the additives.

Learn to walk before you try to run.

thats some tough love RUSTY but i guess it needs to be said sometimes.click on the cancom trouble shooting forms at the bottom of RUSTY's post devilvenom AND FILL OUT THE FORM

[Rusty Trichome]

Huh...

Well...I guess I could blow smoke up his ass, but I'm doubtful that would help much. :jointsmile: