Rofl Stomper, thx for the feedback guys... Seeing the Bear on your state flag gives me a little hope I guess you could say. THE LONE STAR DONT PLAY SON!!!!! Maybe its just good to know there are some people willing to rage against this machine. A friend that I know has something brewing now in his lab, I may ask him to post pics if he will 4 NL, 4 SSH, and 5 AI.