I am not sure where you live but green arrow nurserey has some hydroponic nutrients, they care foxfarm and Dyno-Grow. Iam useing Dyno-Grow and I must say Its a great product and less pricey then all other and the prices are very good. I am on disabilty for second knee surgery lets just I am not working and the disabilty checks well you know theirnot enough to live on, but enough with that check out green arrow nursery I now their in los angeles ca.:stoned: