Upcoming hair test; have regimin, couple questions.

[MedMJstillFuxMe]

My first post got yanked because I mentioned my prescribed meds, so apologies to the mods for my ignorance (I understand completely, even though they are legit and I mentioned them in case they would somehow interfere with cleaning my 100% legit, doc-recommended and completely effective herbal meds out of my hair) and here's another go.

First, thanks to the gurus and apologies for the length of this post...I like to be thorough, and if I pass and my post helps even one person in my situation do the same it is worth it.

I have learned a lot from searching around and already started a regimin, but want to see if there is anything else I can do to up my chances of passing an upcoming hair test. In addition to all of the methods, I have purchased Hair MUDD + shampoo, as a poster in another website, Growman, recommended it wholeheartedly. Again, I firmly believe in CYA.

I am a Med MJ patient, 1-10 times a day of my own homegrown Jack Herers up until 10 days ago. That was for about 18 months, from discharge from military until last weekend. Was clean during entire enlistment.

6"1', short hair (about an inch right now; former-Marine, keep a sloppy medium reg, which I intend to tell them if they mention my short hair), about 210. My hair was a light brown until a couple days ago, now it's a bit reddish light brown.

As soon as a surprise internship opportunity came up, I stopped cold-turkey, even though my service-connected injuries are killing me now.

Then I started using T/Gel and T/Sal shampoos daily all last week. Also have been using Ion swimmer's shampoos, clarifying shampoos, and swimmers conditioners.

Friday night I bleached my hair as per Jerry's plan with 40 developer and powder bleach, then soaked my head in 100% propylene glycol (got it on Amazon; 30 bucks for a gallon, it's for vets to spray on cattle or feed them to help with ketosis) for about a half hour, then did a full Macujo, then did a baking soda massage and soak, then did a tea soak. Everything I did was for a half hour.

Saturday I re-dyed my hair for a half-hour with 20 developer and dye with ammonia, then washed with ION clarifying shampoo, then another propylene glycol soak, then another baking soda s&m, plus a bit of MUDD Shampoo.

I have some slight (very small) scabbing on my temples, but I don't give a fuck, I put some neosporin on it. I am waiting for a callback for the internship sometime this following week and if I get it I will be tested either end of next week or sometime following week.

Sunday I did another full Mac, plus a baking powder and tea s&m, plus a little more MUDD, plus T/Gel and T/Sal, plus used ION Crystal clarifying treatment powder.

Today, (Monday) I have done two baking soda soaks, two propylene glycol soaks, a tide wash, used hair dye stripper to take hair (kind of) back to bleached, and used a bit of the MUDD shampoo, along with innumerable clarifying shampoo washes and swimmers shampoo washes.

In addition, I am getting as much sun as possible as I read that UV further degrades THC metabolites in hair.

Tuesday I plan to do another bleach and re-dye, unless someone tells me my shit will fall out, as well as everything else I have done, probably twice.

My Whizzinator-XXX arrived today which I bought before I knew it was a hair test. I am going to practice with it just in case I pop on hair test so I can look incredulous, blame my pothead roomate for somehow spiking my food or piping smoke into my room, and demand a piss test.

So I have four main questions:
1.) How long should I wait before bleaching and re-dying again so that hair doesn't fall out? Ideally I would like to get three complete bleach and re-dyes in before test, and the Sally's ladies told me to wait 5 weeks, which isn't an option.
-Hair seems ok right now. Actually not bad at all. Little strawish.
-Already shaved EVERYTHING else, so have nothing else to fall
back on.

2.) Is there anything else I can do? Ultimately on test day the MUDD is going in. Again, I only bought it because it was highly recommended by Growman on another forum. I am not endorsing it at all, and I posted in that forum that if his thread was a scam to get people to buy it then he could fuck right off.

3.) Anyone know if the synthetic urine included with Whizzinator-XXX is legit? Or should I invest in QuickFix to make me feel better?

4.) Should I stop using the Mac method altogether? More research has led me to believe that its acid-based regimin is counter-productive, but will it hurt anything (except my scalp)?

I'm not going to claim that this is a life or death situation. It isn't. And I am not facing jail time or anything if I fail. But it is very important I pass as it will get back to people that don't need to know anything about this, i.e. professors, military officers who wrote reference letters, etc., and it will set me back a semester and probably cause me to lose my remaining unemployment.

Thanks to anyone who can help with any suggestions. If you don't have anything helpful, then don't post and waste my time please.

Thanks in advance....

MedMJstillFuxMe Reviewed by MedMJstillFuxMe on 08-24-2010. Upcoming hair test; have regimin, couple questions. My first post got yanked because I mentioned my prescribed meds, so apologies to the mods for my ignorance (I understand completely, even though they are legit and I mentioned them in case they would somehow interfere with cleaning my 100% legit, doc-recommended and completely effective herbal meds out of my hair) and here's another go. First, thanks to the gurus and apologies for the length of this post...I like to be thorough, and if I pass and my post helps even one person in my situation Rating: 5

[MedMJstillFuxMe]

Not hearing anything so I'll just continue to post my process.

Today I did my second hair bleach. This time I had my gf help me, and she put the whole packet plus half a bottle of 40 developer on my head. Now, my hair is pretty short on top (a little more than an inch) with a fade up from skin at neck.

It burned like hell and I got some blistering but I got it to platinum blonde, and the blisters seem to be going away rather quickly, although my scalp is tight as hell.

Rinsed the bleach out with warm water then used Ion clarifying shampoo to wash out, then applied 100% propylene glycol for a half hour.

I am going to try to re-dye tonight, but might not so my scalp can rest. So might just do a baking soda soak and a tea soak, and maybe more depending on how my head feels.

Again, any advice would be helpful.

Edit: I just noticed some of my hair is either breaking off or falling out so I think I am going to rest it and put some swimmer's conditioner in for awhile. I know the point is to damage the hair but it's not going to help me if there isn't any left by the time I take the test.

[Deige]

My first post got yanked because I mentioned my prescribed meds, so apologies to the mods for my ignorance (I understand completely, even though they are legit and I mentioned them in case they would somehow interfere with cleaning my 100% legit, doc-recommended and completely effective herbal meds out of my hair) and here's another go.

First, thanks to the gurus and apologies for the length of this post...I like to be thorough, and if I pass and my post helps even one person in my situation do the same it is worth it.

I have learned a lot from searching around and already started a regimin, but want to see if there is anything else I can do to up my chances of passing an upcoming hair test. In addition to all of the methods, I have purchased Hair MUDD + shampoo, as a poster in another website, Growman, recommended it wholeheartedly. Again, I firmly believe in CYA.

I am a Med MJ patient, 1-10 times a day of my own homegrown Jack Herers up until 10 days ago. That was for about 18 months, from discharge from military until last weekend. Was clean during entire enlistment.

6"1', short hair (about an inch right now; former-Marine, keep a sloppy medium reg, which I intend to tell them if they mention my short hair), about 210. My hair was a light brown until a couple days ago, now it's a bit reddish light brown.

As soon as a surprise internship opportunity came up, I stopped cold-turkey, even though my service-connected injuries are killing me now.

Then I started using T/Gel and T/Sal shampoos daily all last week. Also have been using Ion swimmer's shampoos, clarifying shampoos, and swimmers conditioners.

Friday night I bleached my hair as per Jerry's plan with 40 developer and powder bleach, then soaked my head in 100% propylene glycol (got it on Amazon; 30 bucks for a gallon, it's for vets to spray on cattle or feed them to help with ketosis) for about a half hour, then did a full Macujo, then did a baking soda massage and soak, then did a tea soak. Everything I did was for a half hour.

Saturday I re-dyed my hair for a half-hour with 20 developer and dye with ammonia, then washed with ION clarifying shampoo, then another propylene glycol soak, then another baking soda s&m, plus a bit of MUDD Shampoo.

I have some slight (very small) scabbing on my temples, but I don't give a fuck, I put some neosporin on it. I am waiting for a callback for the internship sometime this following week and if I get it I will be tested either end of next week or sometime following week.

Sunday I did another full Mac, plus a baking powder and tea s&m, plus a little more MUDD, plus T/Gel and T/Sal, plus used ION Crystal clarifying treatment powder.

Today, (Monday) I have done two baking soda soaks, two propylene glycol soaks, a tide wash, used hair dye stripper to take hair (kind of) back to bleached, and used a bit of the MUDD shampoo, along with innumerable clarifying shampoo washes and swimmers shampoo washes.

In addition, I am getting as much sun as possible as I read that UV further degrades THC metabolites in hair.

Tuesday I plan to do another bleach and re-dye, unless someone tells me my shit will fall out, as well as everything else I have done, probably twice.

My Whizzinator-XXX arrived today which I bought before I knew it was a hair test. I am going to practice with it just in case I pop on hair test so I can look incredulous, blame my pothead roomate for somehow spiking my food or piping smoke into my room, and demand a piss test.

So I have four main questions:
1.) How long should I wait before bleaching and re-dying again so that hair doesn't fall out? Ideally I would like to get three complete bleach and re-dyes in before test, and the Sally's ladies told me to wait 5 weeks, which isn't an option.
-Hair seems ok right now. Actually not bad at all. Little strawish.
-Already shaved EVERYTHING else, so have nothing else to fall
back on.

2.) Is there anything else I can do? Ultimately on test day the MUDD is going in. Again, I only bought it because it was highly recommended by Growman on another forum. I am not endorsing it at all, and I posted in that forum that if his thread was a scam to get people to buy it then he could fuck right off.

3.) Anyone know if the synthetic urine included with Whizzinator-XXX is legit? Or should I invest in QuickFix to make me feel better?

4.) Should I stop using the Mac method altogether? More research has led me to believe that its acid-based regimin is counter-productive, but will it hurt anything (except my scalp)?

I'm not going to claim that this is a life or death situation. It isn't. And I am not facing jail time or anything if I fail. But it is very important I pass as it will get back to people that don't need to know anything about this, i.e. professors, military officers who wrote reference letters, etc., and it will set me back a semester and probably cause me to lose my remaining unemployment.

Thanks to anyone who can help with any suggestions. If you don't have anything helpful, then don't post and waste my time please.

Thanks in advance....

Your obviously the most thorough person Ive ever seen preparing for a hair test and that's not a bad thing at all. I honestly don't think that their is anything further that you can do to help your chances of success. You've covered everything top to bottom, back to front and quite nicely I might add.

1. Jerry recommends that the second bleach and redye be done with atleast 10 days of sobriety under your belt. You obviously have that so I wouldn't wait on doing it. I would do your third bleach and redye the night before the test. It's not recommended that you do more than two, so do the last at your own risk and hope that your hair doesn't fall out.

2. I think that you have covered everything very thoroughly.

3. Not for sure about this. Ive never used one because all pre employment drug screens are not observed. A bottle of Quick Fix would have been sufficient.

4. Never heard of it. I only recommend Jerry G's method, which doesn't contain alot of the products that your using. If I were you I would stick to what Jerry has in his regiment.

[MedMJstillFuxMe]

Oh good thanks for the reply Deige.

I really do appreciate it...I have gone from complete ignorance of these tests two weeks ago to an obsessive compulsive need to search google for everything I can find about them.

One note to anyone using the hair dye strippers: I used a product called One 'n Only Color Fix, and that shit smells worse than the camel ass I was forced to smell during my deployments. Seriously. It is awful. I used the color application bottle I had used for my re-dye and I am just going to throw it away.

Second note: I used Ozium spray to try to get rid of it and noticed that Ozium is "Glycolized," which is interesting to me as I had read about some anti-bacterial benefits propylene glycol has in airborne form. So the active ingredients listed are: Triethylene Glycol--4.4%, and Propylene Glycol--4.4%.

Not that anyone should be spraying it on their head, because there are warnings all over it for domestic pets and humans, but interesting to me.

[MedMJstillFuxMe]

Just an update from last night...my head and hair were in bad shape so I just did two 10 minute sessions with Ion Swimmers conditioner (2nd ingredient propylene Glycol).

Today it seems ok, hair is actually not bad, scalp is still a little sore.

So I will probably re-dye once if not twice tonight and continue with some of the less harsh treatments.

Just so everyone knows as well, 100% propylene Glycol is kind of like mineral oil in its look and texture. It doesn't burn or sting at all, and washes out very easily. You can easily leave it in all day I think, though I have just been putting it in for a half hour at a time as part of a regimin.

I still haven't heard from the company yet as to whether I will even be getting this internship, but wasn't really expecting a call until Friday as I believe they are trying to get as many applicants as possible interviewed for the position. I do think I will get it, but my main problem may be that I am overqualified, as I am in school for my master's degree and did this exact type of work in the military, so could probably skip the internship and just take a job there.

If I don't get it I might go to a testing place and get my hair tested anyway, just to see if I would have passed.

Thank goodness I am prescribed an off-topic substance which calms nerves or I may have started tearing out my poor hair.

[MedMJstillFuxMe]

As I like to be thorough I will explain why.

Due to unforeseen circumstances which allow me to have exactly zero stress of failing the test and fucking up all kinds of things without absolutely needing to, while still doing almost everything (professionally and academically) I wanted to do, this is all just not fucking worth it.

My head is killing me, my hair is all fucked up and white, and the 24 hour McDonalds down the street was somehow closed at exactly the time I was craving an EggMcmuffin after hours of frying my hair in the middle of the night.

This will allow me at least 4 months of clean living before the internship cycles will begin again, after which I intend to completely abstain until I am in a position whereby I will never, ever have to even begin to worry about passing a test. This is why I never smoked while in the service...it's just not worth it.

Also I will get another magical week of enjoying the fruits of my labors, rather than a zero-notice cold-turkey stop.

Best of luck to all in here who don't have this option, and I seriously will pray for you all real quick because the stress of this to those of you whose lives depend on the results must just be unreal. For those of you who just say fuck the system and play the game, good luck to you.

Perhaps a quick word to: "The Green Prophet, Khizr: Islam's Patron Saint of Cannabis" might help a little. After all, even though you might not agree with the religion, if he is the saint of bud, he's gotta be a cool guy.

God Bless you all, I intend to enjoy your Med MJ forums, and now I must go start my last of week of bud-smoking which will possibly be unrivaled in my lifetime. :stoned:

[Deige]

As I like to be thorough I will explain why.

Due to unforeseen circumstances which allow me to have exactly zero stress of failing the test and fucking up all kinds of things without absolutely needing to, while still doing almost everything (professionally and academically) I wanted to do, this is all just not fucking worth it.

My head is killing me, my hair is all fucked up and white, and the 24 hour McDonalds down the street was somehow closed at exactly the time I was craving an EggMcmuffin after hours of frying my hair in the middle of the night.

This will allow me at least 4 months of clean living before the internship cycles will begin again, after which I intend to completely abstain until I am in a position whereby I will never, ever have to even begin to worry about passing a test. This is why I never smoked while in the service...it's just not worth it.

Also I will get another magical week of enjoying the fruits of my labors, rather than a zero-notice cold-turkey stop.

Best of luck to all in here who don't have this option, and I seriously will pray for you all real quick because the stress of this to those of you whose lives depend on the results must just be unreal. For those of you who just say fuck the system and play the game, good luck to you.

Perhaps a quick word to: "The Green Prophet, Khizr: Islam's Patron Saint of Cannabis" might help a little. After all, even though you might not agree with the religion, if he is the saint of bud, he's gotta be a cool guy.

God Bless you all, I intend to enjoy your Med MJ forums, and now I must go start my last of week of bud-smoking which will possibly be unrivaled in my lifetime. :stoned:

I don't blame you a bit dude. I myself have never been subjected to a hair test nor do I want too. I would do the same thing if I were in your situation. It's one thing to be subjected to a urine analysis, but hair is a different story and is never 100% full proof. Hopefully one of these days a new method will be invented solely to combat hair tests. Until then I guess we will all have to play by the rules or take a huge risk. Good luck with the sobriety and we hope to see you around the site.