Quote Originally Posted by Prodaytrader
Woa woa woa...take those down quick. You don't want ur mug on here. What I was really after was pics from the plants point for view Ur making me piss my pants over here...:yippee:


I think what we are dealing with is a lack of sunlight. I really think that's what is causing your problems. Lumens are the scientific term for light out put since many of us don't use the sun, we need a way of talking about how much sun we have in our grow space, without there being a sun. Make sense? U can start with this to learn more wiki lumens Bottom line is that there is a minimum necessary for a plant to survive and then another level necessary to thrive. Ur plant doesn't appear to be thriving at the moment and in my mind that's due to lack of proper sunlight or lumens.

So what does a person do about such a thing? Depends on ur situation and space. If you want the natural approach then move your plants outside. If you want a more efficient method move them further indoors and start creating a happy space with ventilation and proper lighting. In the mean time, hows about cleaning ur windows or possibly even opening them if you don't think your getting enough light coming in due to the windows filtering it. A light meter would tell you exactly how much light the plant was getting. I do not know off hand what the minimum necessary is for proper plant growth and fruiting, but most people would think 5k lumens per plant would be about the minimum you could get away with. For reference I veg my plants for about 4 weeks under 25k lumens and then flower for 8 weeks under 60k lumens. This across a 2x3' table.

I suppose you could add in more light to supplement the sunlight possibly. Not sure how that would play out though. You would want to keep the artificial lights on the same schedule as the window I would think. Never tried growing mj on a windowsill before. A green house lets in much more sunlight then I think your patio is. I could be wrong, but a light meter will show you for sure. Was this any more helpful then my last post? lol :P

Ur fucking hilarious in those pics though. rofl

It occurs to me that if your plant is by the windowsill then for how many hours each day is it really getting light? I can see on that second pic that the sun is coming in fine, but at 12:00 what happens? I bet after a few hours no more direct sunlight is coming in your window which means your really only giving your plant about 3 or 4 hours of light each day. Can you put it outside where it can obtain more direct sunlight for a longer period in the day? If even for only 6 hours each day, if it were direct sunlight and could then continue to get indirect light for a further 6 or 8 hours you would be right where you need them to be. I don't think 18 hours of direct sunlight is necessary but certainly half of that should be direct and half indirect as in some shade as the sun passes along in the sky. I'm talked out. Any of this sitting well with you?
yeah ill try cleaning the window but it starts getting direct sunlight at 12 then that stays untill about 7 also the problem might be that im not turning it.the sun starts coming in horizontal as the day goes by.last time i put my plant outside alotta the leaves burnt cause the soil dried out but that was back in veg. thats one reason i cut fan leaves. btw the fuzz wont be able to find someone by a picture.weather they new what city i lived in or not. its decriminalized where i live and its up to 7 plants to be illegal or an ounce of weed.and i never got a mugshot yet so they cant look it up in there computer. oh and do u think if i just put some nice topsoil over the old soil with the good nutrients in the new topsoil will the nutrient sink into the old soil? and the windows are soo old they dont open.
also im thinking about switching the sunliight into blue ray flurecent. its not the same as normal florecent. i dont like florecent because it makes the stem grow too fast and its not good for flowering. but at the fish store u can buy different spectrum florecent. do u no if that would work. and if thats not a good light to use what do u prefer that wont get too hot..also imma needa save up for a week to buy the equipment. i apreciate the help tho. and i no how some windows block precious rays from the sunlight. but im pretty sure old windows dont block the good rays. i remember my aunt couldnt grow spider plants because she had this type of window that blocked out the ray to make the plant photosynthesize. ill work on getting a better pic of the grow room.