Quote Originally Posted by cologrower420
It seems like you are taking issue with the owner and not the product. edit (I'm all for screwing over places I have had problems with)

I guess I might be ignorant, but I've seen tons of places that mix their trim to make bubble hash, so I'm not sure why a mix of kief and oil is so blatantly 'wrong'.

Are you saying that williambreathes doesn't know what he's talking about? I mean he doesn't exactly have the same opinion that you do. I've never been to that MMC, but I think stanley owns the buddinghealth here in the tech center, and I've always been pleased there. They had some grape diesel for awhile that was great.

Is there another place to read honest reviews? I don't think , kindreviews, etc. have all that much credibility since they either allow advertisements, pay the reviewer, provide free meds, or otherwise undermine their credibility as being totally unbiased. Is there someone other than wb who has more credibility in your mind?
Hi, I just wanted to chime in on this since our name got brought up again here.

As many of you know, I (MMJinColorado.com admin) joined up with KindReviews in May and have since been a key member of the team, doing most of the editing and photos since late July. I made this decision primarily because I thought that KindReviews would be a larger outlet for my writing and reviewing since the name is already established in the community to a greater extent than MMJinColorado.com was/is, but also because we saw that we were sitting on common ground in terms of goals, personalities, and drive. I'm very proud to be a member of the KindReviews.com team and because of that, I wanted to address the arguments presented above -- Travis had done basically this a long time ago in that hijacked Releaf Center Jack Flash thread, but we've since changed things around a bit and I wanted to inform everyone of how we work and why:

Firstly, KindReviews.com does not take any money from dispensaries aside from for banner ads, which we actually haven't been pushing hard at all lately... mostly because we do understand the impression that it can give to readers to see dispensary ads on the site. However, we will not back down from this avenue entirely, as our review methodology is sound. Getting some money monthly from a dispensary for a banner ad does not factor into it at all, which will be elaborated upon below.

Secondly, all of our reviews since I've come on have been performed by a 3-person panel. When the site was first created as MileHigh Marijuana Reviews, it was a single person doing most everything... the crew expanded in February, and again in April/May. Basically, we don't have the same 3 people on each and every strain but rather draw from our core group and then have several knowledgeable 'interns' who help us with providing one of the 3 opinions. Basically, this system ensures that if there is a disagreement or a large discrepancy in the experience, we can have another reviewer to chime in and hopefully kill the mystery. Of course there are sometimes still varied experiences, but as the editor, I attempt to incorporate those into the final edit regardless (i.e. "another reviewer experienced stronger effects and felt he needed a nap") to make sure all experiences are accounted for and any apparent biases are controlled-for.

Further, the interns do not know which shop the samples are coming from -- they get nothing but a strain name label on a button bag. This prevents any pre-existing relationships (we all have pre-existing friends in the dispensary field, as 95% of MMJ patients do) or pre-dispositions from influencing the decisions and grades of the reviewer. For the core staff, we also take pictures and pick up samples from time to time, so we have to know where it came from just by the nature of the work. Whether you take us at face value on our promise to always review the STRAIN and not the SHOP or not is up to you... but as has been pointed out previously, shops that have paid us for advertising have received some downright bad grades and we've churned out a ton of "A"s in the past few months, with absolutely no dollars exchanging hands with those shops.

At this point in our lifecycle, free weed does not impress us. We ask for a 2.5g sample, 0.5g of which goes directly to Full Spectrum Laboratories for cannabinoid testing (as of last month). The remaining 2g goes between the 3 reviewers, who normally receive 0.7g apiece, which is enough for two reviews in case a re-review is necessary to nail it down. About half of our strains get a re-review from at least one person... This amount also allows for a tiny sample to remain for a possible 4th reviewer in the case that we need yet another opinion.

We've had shops offer us more than the sample amount to review, normally because it was a great-looking nug that they wanted photographed and did not wish to break it apart. We absolutely draw the line at 3.0g in these cases and have not accepted anything larger than that for a review sample. We want to allow them to choose the med that gets photographed to a certain extent, so some leeway is necessary.

At KR headquarters right now, we have probably 40 tiny pieces of strains sitting in jars that represent our 'archives' (anything that didn't get consumed as a part of the reviews is saved). I say this to emphasize that getting an extra gram from a shop IS NOT going to wow us or make us want to give them a better grade, and it doesn't happen in the first place because we make a point to pay for anything we want beyond the 2.5g we are offered as part of the review. We've gone back to multiple shops to pay for additional amounts, sometimes even when we planned to review it but just needed a bit more for another reviewer, etc.

I'm not sure what else I can say to alleviate that particular worry, but basically, the "bribed with meds" argument is one lacking merit at this point in our business. If we were still a start up that wasn't being offered 2.5g of multiple top shelf strains whenever we walk into the door of a dispensary, then yes, I see the merit in that argument. Because we cannot sell the meds we receive, they have no monetary value to us... we keep them for archiving purposes and for retrospectives at a later date.

So anyway, I just wanted to address these things for anyone that cares. I appreciate that you guys read and look at the site even a little bit, regardless of your opinions on our process. I have complete confidence in our methodology and our review staff, and now that we're also working with Full Spectrum Labs, we can offer both the KR subjective data and the FSL objective quantitative data.

Also, (not to toot my own horn... okay, maybe a little) I've been personally responsible for the recall of well over 20 strains that have been infected with mites, mold, etc. We take patient safety seriously, and each strain that comes to us for review goes through a rigorous scoping process by yours truly before even being sent to FSL or photographed. We've pissed off a few shops initially by telling them that they need to pull their dirty meds, but to a man/woman, they've all come back and realized that we were right and trying to do the right thing for the patients. We provide photographic evidence of all issues we discover and suggest that the meds be pulled from the shelves.

Bottom line is that we're trying to serve as the best patient's guide in Colorado in terms of finding meds that work for you and meet your needs. Scoping the meds we post is a huge part of that, as is the new FSL testing agreement -- this is all very important information that WAS NOT being spread at any visible level except by us and a handful of shops that were testing all of their strains.

If you disagree with our grades or even our methods, you're of course welcome to your opinion -- but I want to assure you that myself and the rest of the crew bust our collective ass for the patients of Colorado and not for any other interests. Our primary purpose is to help patients sort out the MMJ scene a bit and find strains and specific grows that will help their medical conditions, and I think we do that better than any site in the world right now, no contest. The other garbage like MarijuanaReviews.com and whatever else are nothing more than unqualified, untested, unverified, reports from random people who can even buy it from a "private dealer" and post a review... We're the only strain review site with a consistent review crew (3 members including myself have well over 150 strain reviews under their belts), the ONLY site with THC testing numbers, and the ONLY site that is scoping meds for the patients of Colorado.

...Also, we have WAY better eye candy than any other review site. If you don't even like the reviews, at least come check out the pictures and see what the good growers of CO have been producing lately. Since August, I've done all the pictures personally and there is no aftertouching in PhotoShop, etc. -- they come straight out of the camera and are only cropped to size and watermarked before being posted.

If you guys have any comments to share, please e-mail [email protected] to reach all of us or [email protected] for myself personally. Big ups to all you Cannabis.com people, I've missed you being so busy these last few months... haven't been on here more than a few times. Thanks to anyone who reads and comments on the site regularly and to all the shops that help us spread the knowledge by providing samples.