Vending?

[Zedleppelin]

Give me an example of how this industry could successfully regulate itself as a free market. Would there be absolutely no government interference? Certainly there will be those who will try to manipulate the market...

It was regulating itself quite well the past 10 years. No easier and better way to manipulate the market than through one sided legislation.

[HighPopalorum]

It was regulating itself quite well the past 10 years.

Not really. Eight of the last ten years the DEA was riding around like cowboys kicking down doors nationwide. Only a fraction of Colorado's potential patients were being served in the days before Obama and dispensaries. The status quo is much better for everyone.

[SoCoMMJ]

If you sell contaminated "medicine," don't you think people will find out? Don't you think that would affect your business?

So as an example if King Soopers sold some E-Coli hamburger you would just stop shopping there? What about the 10 other stores that are also selling from the same vendor?

In the food sales industry, if there is an issue with a product there is a means to pull the product from shelves everywhere it exists.

If some vendor got crazy killing off the mites with avid 7 weeks into flower then hawked it at numerous shops, how could anybody know where it is to recall it?

Why do you think they killed off the vendor sales to dispensaries and forced dispensaries to grow their own ?

King Soopers doesn't take Tomatoes from random backyard farmers for a reason...

[blackhash]

If some vendor got crazy killing off the mites with avid 7 weeks into flower then hawked it at numerous shops, how could anybody know where it is to recall it?

Why do you think they killed off the vendor sales to dispensaries and forced dispensaries to grow their own ?

King Soopers doesn't take Tomatoes from random backyard farmers for a reason...

The insinuation above that meds grown by caregivers are full of chems and the meds grown by dispensaries are somehow better/safer is such a crock. Who will be more likely to use drastic measures to save a crop...the guy with a few plants in his basement, or the guy who's ENTIRE livlihood and the existence of his dispensary is hinging on his one warehose that is full of mites and PM?

Get real.

The State is requiring the dispensaries to grow their own and cut off the caregiver sales because of REVENUE/TAX INCOME...nothing else. This is the SAME reason CM has to buy tomatoes from licensed seller. It ISN'T about >quality<, it is about tracking $$$ to collect TAXES ON THOSE SALES.

Nothin more.

Ditto with MMJ.... The Revenue Dept cares not about the QUALITY of the pot grown, just want you to grow and sell as much "medical marijuana" as you can so they can collect tax money off it. Nothing else. Don't be fooled into thinking ANY of this was done with the average patient in mind or that it is about "quality control". It isn't. It's about the MONEY.

No, King Soopers doesn't buy local produce. That's why the tomatoes are green and hard..just like the fruit. It's MASS PRODUCED and held in cold storage until needed...and it's dumped on the market for the consumer to buy "as is", which is usually a gig where you have to take it home and ripen it (in the MMJ world, DRY IT OUT cus the dispensary sold it wet for weight) before you can eat it.

Welcome to the world of mass produced warehouse "med" pot! Coming soon to a patient near you....

[senorx12562]

Cannabis has been grown, bought, and sold for as long as there have been people, and I have been participating in that market in one way or another for about 40 years, and not once has the thought entered my head that "boy, I sure wish the government would get involved in this market. We really need regulating." Many posters on this site act as if is this is all new with the advent of "medical" marijuana. Trust me, it is not. As a matter of policy, ALL DRUGS, and most particularly cannabis, should be totally unregulated, except by the market itself, AND AVAILABLE TO ANY ADULT WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION AND WITHOUT LIMITATION. Deaths from acetaminophen number close to 1000 per year, and yet a 10 year old can walk into the grocery and buy 10 bottles of tylenol. There is absolutely no justification for treating cannabis any differently.

[senorx12562]

So as an example if King Soopers sold some E-Coli hamburger you would just stop shopping there? What about the 10 other stores that are also selling from the same vendor?

In the food sales industry, if there is an issue with a product there is a means to pull the product from shelves everywhere it exists.

If some vendor got crazy killing off the mites with avid 7 weeks into flower then hawked it at numerous shops, how could anybody know where it is to recall it?

Why do you think they killed off the vendor sales to dispensaries and forced dispensaries to grow their own ?

King Soopers doesn't take Tomatoes from random backyard farmers for a reason...

.. and the reason is not because the government tells them they can't. It's because they have to be accountable to their customers to stay in business.

[senorx12562]

The insinuation above that meds grown by caregivers are full of chems and the meds grown by dispensaries are somehow better/safer is such a crock. Who will be more likely to use drastic measures to save a crop...the guy with a few plants in his basement, or the guy who's ENTIRE livlihood and the existence of his dispensary is hinging on his one warehose that is full of mites and PM?

Get real.

The State is requiring the dispensaries to grow their own and cut off the caregiver sales because of REVENUE/TAX INCOME...nothing else. This is the SAME reason CM has to buy tomatoes from licensed seller. It ISN'T about >quality<, it is about tracking $$$ to collect TAXES ON THOSE SALES.

Nothin more.

Ditto with MMJ.... The Revenue Dept cares not about the QUALITY of the pot grown, just want you to grow and sell as much "medical marijuana" as you can so they can collect tax money off it. Nothing else. Don't be fooled into thinking ANY of this was done with the average patient in mind or that it is about "quality control". It isn't. It's about the MONEY.

No, King Soopers doesn't buy local produce. That's why the tomatoes are green and hard..just like the fruit. It's MASS PRODUCED and held in cold storage until needed...and it's dumped on the market for the consumer to buy "as is", which is usually a gig where you have to take it home and ripen it (in the MMJ world, DRY IT OUT cus the dispensary sold it wet for weight) before you can eat it.

Welcome to the world of mass produced warehouse "med" pot! Coming soon to a patient near you....

You are absolutely 100% correct. And my tomatoes are WAY better than King Soopers' too!

[copobo]

So as an example if King Soopers sold some E-Coli hamburger you would just stop shopping there? What about the 10 other stores that are also selling from the same vendor?

In the food sales industry, if there is an issue with a product there is a means to pull the product from shelves everywhere it exists.

If some vendor got crazy killing off the mites with avid 7 weeks into flower then hawked it at numerous shops, how could anybody know where it is to recall it?

Why do you think they killed off the vendor sales to dispensaries and forced dispensaries to grow their own ?

King Soopers doesn't take Tomatoes from random backyard farmers for a reason...

regulation isn't going to stop use of pesticides, nor will it end up on most labels.

if someone sprayed with avid on week seven, we'd smoke and never know.

what about farmers markets and all the little organic growers that sell to restaurants and people outside of the shopping CENTERS.

this regulation does nothing but protect the dispensaries, the big dispensaries especially.

they've re-gathered our rights, and they are selling them off.

[senorx12562]

Not really. Eight of the last ten years the DEA was riding around like cowboys kicking down doors nationwide. Only a fraction of Colorado's potential patients were being served in the days before Obama and dispensaries. The status quo is much better for everyone.

I've never heard of anyone who wanted to buy marijuana not being able to find some.

[blackhash]

It's been quite the scam/sham, hasn't it? Before last summer the patient-base was keeping fair pace with the needs of those who were truly qualified to enter the program. Yes there were glitches and it took pop-po awhile to get on board, but we were certainly making progress and NO ONE WAS REALLY WATCHING what was going on behind the scenes!

It wasn't until the dispensaries started signing up anyone with the $$ to play and started CREATING a larger need for "medical" marijuana that the illusion was created that there was a need for more dispensaries. (i, e. "supply") Once the neon pot leaves hit and the roadside signs went up the 'secret' game we had going was exposed and the changes came down the sewer pipe for all.

I like yer unregulated scenario, senor, especially in the marijuana world. Such legality and prevelance would squish this cureent >greed-based< model flat and would seperate out, much as we had previously/before july 20th 2009, those who are in this to help others and interested in moving things forward at a reasonable pace, and those who are only in this for themselves.

more change will come and I'll wager it won't be in favor of the current model.