Vending?

[TheReleafCenter]

Sounds like you are running out of meds? 70/30 rule becoming a wee bit of a problem? Anyway, do you have legal means to deal with vendors?

It's not the 70/30, it's everyone closing their doors. Tons of new patients, just trying to keep the variety up.

As far as we've been advised, it's legal to accept vendors until August 31st.

And, once again, I have NO problem with caregivers... they've helped us out and I'd like to be able to help anyone out thinking they're stuck with overage because they can't vend.

TheReleafCenter Reviewed by TheReleafCenter on 08-11-2010. Vending? Where have all the vendors gone? It's been awfully quiet around here lately. Rating: 5

[colagal]

70/30 isn't the issue, it's patients coming on faster than the garden can catch up. We've been having to slow down the incoming patients so we don't run out. The 5 patient cap put a lot of people out of a caregiver, + many dispensaries closed up on 8/1.

We only sell what we can grow. I want to know what's in the product we're selling to patients. Besides, I'm not so sure that anybody has legal means to deal with vendors at this point. I don't want to be the test case

It's not the 70/30, it's everyone closing their doors. Tons of new patients, just trying to keep the variety up.

As far as we've been advised, it's legal to accept vendors until August 31st.

And, once again, I have NO problem with caregivers... they've helped us out and I'd like to be able to help anyone out thinking they're stuck with overage because they can't vend.

So, if you have to turn down patients to keep within your license requirements/grow limitations, are you recommending caregivers for those who do not state your center as their provider?

I imagine most centers will not be able to boast of a variety of flavors unless centers trade flavors amongst themselves....but not the good ones, eh?

Also, is it possible for caregivers to meet their patients at your center, i.e., a neutral place (private room) out of site of the public rather than a parking lot, etc. if the patient is uncomfortable having their caregiver come to their home?

[canaguy27]

what range are you offering for vendors?

[SoCoMMJ]

So, if you have to turn down patients to keep within your license requirements/grow limitations, are you recommending caregivers for those who do not state your center as their provider?

Patients are free to shop at any MMC that they want without making a designation of primary center. If they want to buy from us they have to wait a bit until we can take them on. We are only selling to our patients that have made the MMC designation until the garden catches up with demand.

Soon we will catch up with demand. Then we'll be able to sell to patients regardless of their MMC designation status.

Hmmmm.... Hadn't really considered providing a meeting place for caregivers to deliver to their patients. Sounds like a good way to help out, but I wonder how the DOR will be with it regarding moving inventory in and out of the MMC ? I may have to ponder that one. I think there may be some other legal exposures to consider there as well.

[dixierebel]

70/30 isn't the issue, it's patients coming on faster than the garden can catch up. We've been having to slow down the incoming patients so we don't run out. The 5 patient cap put a lot of people out of a caregiver, + many dispensaries closed up on 8/1.

We only sell what we can grow. I want to know what's in the product we're selling to patients. Besides, I'm not so sure that anybody has legal means to deal with vendors at this point. I don't want to be the test case

sounds like hb1284 is working wonders for the "centers"now.i can see how you can drop the prices to around 200 per being that you get to now"legally"take everyones patients.sure you can say i did'nt want it this way honest i did'nt.lmao i wish i could get the gov to regulate any biz i owned so that all customers HAD to come my way too...

[dixierebel]

Patients are free to shop at any MMC that they want without making a designation of primary center. If they want to buy from us they have to wait a bit until we can take them on. We are only selling to our patients that have made the MMC designation until the garden catches up with demand.

Soon we will catch up with demand. Then we'll be able to sell to patients regardless of their MMC designation status.

Hmmmm.... Hadn't really considered providing a meeting place for caregivers to deliver to their patients. Sounds like a good way to help out, but I wonder how the DOR will be with it regarding moving inventory in and out of the MMC ? I may have to ponder that one. I think there may be some other legal exposures to consider there as well.

yea like the "caregiver to caregiver"rule? as in no caregiver can link up with other caregivers.

[dixierebel]

It's not the 70/30, it's everyone closing their doors. Tons of new patients, just trying to keep the variety up.

As far as we've been advised, it's legal to accept vendors until August 31st.

And, once again, I have NO problem with caregivers... they've helped us out and I'd like to be able to help anyone out thinking they're stuck with overage because they can't vend.

your right they did help out in a big way...by staying quite while the rug was being pulled out from under them.

[SoCoMMJ]

sounds like hb1284 is working wonders for the "centers"now.i can see how you can drop the prices to around 200 per being that you get to now"legally"take everyones patients.sure you can say i did'nt want it this way honest i did'nt.lmao i wish i could get the gov to regulate any biz i owned so that all customers HAD to come my way too...

I don't really believe that HB10-1284 is working wonders for anybody. Not for centers, not for caregivers, and not for patients. Our wonderful legislators dumped this same mess on everybody in the industry. Yes the industry needed some regulation, but not this mess.

Somehow you twisted a good thing of selling to our patients at wholesale prices into a strange perversion of stealing patients from you. I look at it more as, why would I sell to my own patients at a higher price than I would sell to another dispensary for?

But I guess maybe I should change that and charge more ??? Or maybe not be in business so patients can pay more where the MMC has to pay growers wholesale before they mark it up? Not sure what you are looking for here.

We are well aware that 1284 sucks, but we're past that and dealing with it.

[colagal]

Patients are free to shop at any MMC that they want without making a designation of primary center. If they want to buy from us they have to wait a bit until we can take them on. We are only selling to our patients that have made the MMC designation until the garden catches up with demand.

Soon we will catch up with demand. Then we'll be able to sell to patients regardless of their MMC designation status.

Hmmmm.... Hadn't really considered providing a meeting place for caregivers to deliver to their patients. Sounds like a good way to help out, but I wonder how the DOR will be with it regarding moving inventory in and out of the MMC ? I may have to ponder that one. I think there may be some other legal exposures to consider there as well.

I understand patients can buy from any center, but won't y'all have the same periodic supply/demand problem? For example, if your license says 300 patients who have designated your center as their provider, and you have, say, 1000 total customers, won't there always be a potential supply deficit? And that is assuming no problems with the grow. Also, since other centers will no doubt be in the same boat, no one will have anything extra to offer within that 30% range to make up the shortfall. So, unless centers decide to pay the larger license fees to have more grow potential, it seems that, at least for the next year, there will be a shortfall....to be made up...where? How long will these patients wait for their meds if the centers are temporarily out? Where will they go? It looks like centers will probably not suggest caregivers (former vendors) since that may not be in their best interests, plus it may be that most patients prefer to buy from centers than from caregivers?

I imagine that when it comes to audit time, the inspectors will check very closely to see that what you grow and what you sell matches. Even if your patients don't use their allotted 2 oz., the extra may not cover all your other customer needs, and again a shortage problem. That's my guess: there will be a shortage at most centers this next year. And, if so, that may translate into higher prices?

[copobo]

I would assume some of the Centers are positioning themselves to be wholesalers to other Centers, more than being dispensaries themselves.

I could be wrong, but I assume some volume players will emerge soon enough.