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    #11
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Marko123
    Why didn't his family leave when everything was hitting the fan if they didn't condone
    the government's view? And, don't tell me they could not leave because they could.
    For that matter, the Catholic Church didn't do much, if anything, to stop the hatred against the Jews at that time.
    Ok, so as soon as your country goes to war, you leave? That's the stupidest comment I've read... And you had no choice to join the Hitler Youth. It's like mandatory Boy Scouts.

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    #12
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    not to mention he deserted the army.hitler youth my ass.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #13
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
    not to mention he deserted the army.hitler youth my ass.
    Correct, he deserted and was even a POW for a little while...

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    #14
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    a good man,brave,as soon as people see that the hype is crap the story will go away,like the italian "journalist"
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #15
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    No I wouldn't leave my country as soon as it went to war. But, if my government started rounding up, oh say the Jewish population, and then systematically started murdering them well, I have to say, I would leave. As for being forced to be in the Hitler youth, that did not come until later in the war.

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    #16
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    No I wouldn't leave my country as soon as it went to war. But, if my government started rounding up, oh say the Jewish population, and then systematically started murdering them well, I have to say, I would leave. As for being forced to be in the Hitler youth, that did not come until later in the war.

    P.S. you made me cry when you said my comment was stupid.
    Nah, just "funnin" Ya

    None of this stuff matters anyway because what do we know anyway? Like the song goes "God only knows. God makes his plans. The information is not available to the mortal man. We work our jobs, collect our pay. We think we are driving down the highway when in fact we are slip sliding away" Paul Simon

    So peace to you and yours. Maybe we will meet when the four horseman come. Speaking of which, when do you think that will be? Before we kick?

    M.

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    #17
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    HABEMVS PAPAM

    People didn't know Jews were being shipped to gas rooms. THey just thought they were being sent away... Well, that's what the government was telling them. In any case, the Catholic Church has always had a strong atni-semitic current, so it's no big news.

    You have no idea what it was like to live in Nazi Germany, and neither do I. However, the Germans stayed home and fought, because their leaders were extremely charismatic men who were able to take a drastic situation (remember, the Great Depression was 'Great' because it affected the whole world...) and use it to make the people agree with them and go along. A person such as Hitler could have done the same in pretty much any country, given the circumstances.

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