Quote Originally Posted by VapedG13
No no... the feds wont fuck with us at all:thumbsup:

Banks are closing dispensary business accounts currently and have been sending letters to almost all owners.... stating we have till Oct4 to close our accounts.... cause of the Treasury Dept is saying they will be procecuted

Wellsfargo sent us a letter Looks like its a cash only business Good luck to the pot farms
:jointsmile: think Barry and Timmy are hedging their bet? this all very interesting.

I wonder who else besides Barney Frank went to bat for us in the congress? We do have a few friends in that branch, sometimes. :twocents:

interesting discussion thank you for all the info here and some great info on your linked site, too. :thumbsup:

So . . . what is everyone opionion on how Barry would react to a yes vote on Prop 19??

Here is an interesting write up that talks about the mechanism of federalism that drives our republic. Here is part of it below.



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The federal-state dynamic concerning marijuana is not complicated. Under our system of federalism, both the states and the feds may prohibit commerce in marijuana, but neither is required to do so. Similarly, during alcohol prohibition (1920-33), commerce in alcoholic beverages was prohibited not only by federal law (the Volstead Act) but by the laws of most states. In 1923, New York repealed its state prohibition laws, leaving enforcement, for the remaining 10 years, entirely to the feds. California voters overwhelmingly did the same thing in 1932, one year before national prohibition was repealed.

Let's think this through. If Proposition 19 passes, two important balls roll into the feds' court. The first is that the sole responsibility and expense of enforcing marijuana prohibition will be shifted to them. After Nov. 2, marijuana "offenders" could be arrested only by federal agents, prosecuted only under federal law, and sentenced only to federal detention.

If the feds undertook this, cases involving simple possession cases and small-time marijuana businesspeople, usually relegated to state courts, would flood federal courthouses. But even with a drastic increase in funding for federal enforcement, such activity would barely put a dent in California's marijuana trade, and would fail to stifle California's policy change, as the federal government has failed to do since the first medical marijuana laws were passed 14 years ago. Moreover, justifying the invasion into a state's province to undermine the will of the voters at such great expense to taxpayers would be highly questionable, especially in the current economic climate, not to mention a political climate that is at best lukewarm on prohibitionist policies.

The second ball is even more significant. Voter approval of Proposition 19 would shift to the feds the responsibility and burden of justifying marijuana prohibition in the first place. Now, the Washingtonians who have never questioned decades of anti-pot propaganda can explain to the people of California why we cannot be trusted to determine our state's marijuana policies. Let them endorse the prohibition laws' usefulness as a tool of oppressing minorities. Let them celebrate how minor marijuana violations cost people their jobs, their housing, custody of their kids, and entrap them permanently in vast criminal justice databases. Let them justify the utter hypocrisy of the legal treatment of alcohol and tobacco, as compared with the illegal treatment of marijuana. Let them tell us how many more people will have to be prosecuted and punished before marijuana is eradicated, how much that will cost, and where the money will come from.
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boaz Reviewed by boaz on . 10 reasons to vote NO on prop #19 Ten Reasons to Vote No 1. Proposition 19 isnâ??t really legalization. It only allows possession of up to one ounce of cannabis. Under current California law, an ounce or less of pot isnâ??t an arrestable offense. And soon this amount will be a simple civil infraction. Prop 19 doesnâ??t make any improvements to decriminalization or prop 215. 2. Prop 19 creates several new cannabis related crimes with extremely severe penalties. Donâ??t pass a joint to a 17 year old, you will be looking at a Rating: 5