O rusty you are so right. If you could just get ppl to apply your knowledge and stop listening to theory. I like the paper towel thing . if you dont check them every 5 minutes and place them properly into soil with out stressin them. I have never had germination problem through out my years. Most bank seeds run over 95% sucusses rate for me . including nirvana. only problem i have had. is recieving the wrong or improper genetics. but they still germinated... makes cloning look more interesting to a person then you have no worries of germinating numerous seeds plus you know what you haveimp: