Quote Originally Posted by Macman9290
well i haven't messed with them at all...all i did was put them in rockwool.
So you put them into paper towels, probably kept opening to check them, then took them out of the paper towels and put them into rock wool, watered a few times possibly..... That's what I'd call messing with them too much yes. IMHO seeds were not designed (by nature) for that. I say yet again: I put my Nirvana seeds in soil, watered lightly, and by some miracle they all grew!

Quote Originally Posted by Macman9290
but i dont blame nirvana I'm just asking is 4 days to long to not see seedlings?
Sorry, I must have misunderstood your big accusing title "Seed Problem from Nirvana Not Sprouting". I think I need new glasses because it led me to believe Nirvana seeds had a problem sprouting. Perhaps it should have read "No matter how much I pick and poke at these seeds they still won't grow".

I've seen a few seeds take over a week to pop up.

For the third time, I'd advise to just plant the seeds, water lightly and allow them to grow without all that extra "help". It worked for Jack and the bean stalk.