Can u help a brother out?

[SprngsCaregiver]

comparing growing herb to a meth lab, on any level, is complete bullshit.

be careful that the statements you make don't demean cannabis with false innuendo, perpetuating false stereotypes... especially if favoring your license and profit.

I couldn't agree more! I'm just sick of hearing that from this guy. So I flipped the script for him to show him how rediculous it sounds.

[cologrower420]

LOL gotta keep it up with the meth comment because you know it gets under people's skin being compared to tweakers? Real mature.

You keep caliming that caregivers with non compliant grows are no better than meth labs. Using your logic lets take a closer look at this under federal law. MMC's are now required to grow 70% of their medicine. You will attract federal attention at over 98 plants. So to stay compliant under federal law a MMC could only serve 16 or 17 patients. Otherwise MMC's are no better than a meth lab operators. Do you think any MMC's are only serving 16 17 people?

It's not the MMC's that people on here have a problem with. It's the government walking all over the constitution.

Oh and it was mainly big dispensaries buying patients (probably the same ones now lobbying for 1284) not private caregivers. Caregivers with good gear dont need to buy patients they come looking for you.

I have repeatedly posted, and repeatedly been attacked for this comment.

I have asked anyone here to post a response telling me how I am not correct in my interpretation of Colorado Law, using a very specific example.

I don't understand how you guys can't seem to comprehend what I am trying to say. I'm just having a discussion, and I am frustrated because no one, even YOU, seems to care about having a discussion. You guys came, you saw, you got offended, and now everything related to that has nothing to do with my point. I have not used any personal attacks, but I do question why you are acting like a troll. Why don't you just answer me? I have taken your criticisms, I don't mind you hating me, all I ask is for a coherent reponse. Are we ever going to get anywhere on this, or are you going to take the time to make a post just to insult me? It would take less time for you to spend to make a post to answer my question than it does to follow me around and post where I do whenever I mention meth.

My original point, ignoring whatever text I used in that very first post, was this: After 1284 and 109, it's my opinion that NON COMPLIANT, LARGE SCALE 99+ PLANT GROWS THAT GET BUSTED, WILL BE TREATED THE SAME AS SOMEONE WHO GETS BUSTED OPERATING A METH LAB.

Now, if you can read and comprehend things, the only comparison I made from growing herb to meth deals directly with the ILLEGAL PART. How would these two DRUG CRIMES be prosecuted any differently moving forward?

I hope you can stop being insulted at being compared to a meth lab. I think you said you are a compliant caregiver, so I am not even sure why you are insulted, since I attempted to compare two situations that got busted, which you don't qualify for due being compliant. So, you'd never be in the position of getting busted, so why are you upset at this crowd being compared to a meth lab?

Surely you understand that I am a legal patient and it would seem silly to compare pot to meth, right?

I think you're still just offended at my original post, which I have attempted to explain to you several times. Why don't you just admit that? Replying to me that you hate that comparison is silly and it creates a lot of noise. Plus, it makes people post insults and doesn't further discussion.

edit: Will you please refer to my posts correctly? You are wrong when you state that I am comparing legal MMC's to meth labs. I was only trying to compare ALREADY BUSTED grows. So, please stop using that example, it's not what I even said.

[cologrower420]

LOL gotta keep it up with the meth comment because you know it gets under people's skin being compared to tweakers? Real mature.

You keep caliming that caregivers with non compliant grows are no better than meth labs. Using your logic lets take a closer look at this under federal law. MMC's are now required to grow 70% of their medicine. You will attract federal attention at over 98 plants. So to stay compliant under federal law a MMC could only serve 16 or 17 patients. Otherwise MMC's are no better than a meth lab operators. Do you think any MMC's are only serving 16 17 people?

It's not the MMC's that people on here have a problem with. It's the government walking all over the constitution.

Oh and it was mainly big dispensaries buying patients (probably the same ones now lobbying for 1284) not private caregivers. Caregivers with good gear dont need to buy patients they come looking for you.

You should stop referring to non compliant grows as 'caregivers', because I find it offensive. They are now breaking the law. I have no sympathy for those types of people, just like I have no sympathy for people who operate meth labs and get busted.

Can we please stay on topic? Everyone knows you hate herb being compared to meth. Now that you understand that wasn't the example I was using, can we move on? I'm trying to use specific examples and people can't keep up. Let's remember that I am talking about BUSTED grows, not compliant caregivers. Do you understand? I don't know why this is so difficult.

Also, I understand that MMC's do not have a patient cap, so they can grow six plants for unlimited patients, so your example doesn't quite work. Is it possible you don't fully understand the legislation and it's potential impacts?

Don't you realize the mods have been deleting our posts because you can't seem to remain civil and have a normal conversation?

[cologrower420]

comparing growing herb to a meth lab, on any level, is complete bullshit.

be careful that the statements you make don't demean cannabis with false innuendo, perpetuating false stereotypes... especially if favoring your license and profit.

It seems that you are disagreeing with me. It seems that you are saying a busted marijuana grow isn't as bad as a busted meth grow. That's fine, but then you also take the position that they will be treated differently in the courtroom right? What do you think?

In your opinion, what would a busted home grow be charged with? How would that be different than the charges the meth lab faces?

You say my argument (which you misquoted) is bullshit, so please tell me why. Thanks.

[TheReleafCenter]

I designated you as my primary on my first visit, and I didn't get my clone! Are you still doing that?

Also, I think the cannamed thing sucks because their business model thrives on low income patients, who need good access. Oh well.

The program was for people who wanted to remove their old caregiver and "assign themselves", or grow without a caregiver. We discontinued the program with 1284 coming into effect. If you assigned us we were growing for you and hence no clone.

[SprngsCaregiver]

I have repeatedly posted, and repeatedly been attacked for this comment.

Attacked?? LOL where did I attack you?

I have asked anyone here to post a response telling me how I am not correct in my interpretation of Colorado Law, using a very specific example.

Because they are serving medicine to patients with medical cards which Article 18 section 14 of the Colorado Constitution gives them permission to do.

I don't understand how you guys can't seem to comprehend what I am trying to say. I'm just having a discussion, and I am frustrated because no one, even YOU, seems to care about having a discussion. You guys came, you saw, you got offended, and now everything related to that has nothing to do with my point. I have not used any personal attacks, but I do question why you are acting like a troll. Why don't you just answer me? I have taken your criticisms, I don't mind you hating me, all I ask is for a coherent reponse. Are we ever going to get anywhere on this, or are you going to take the time to make a post just to insult me? It would take less time for you to spend to make a post to answer my question than it does to follow me around and post where I do whenever I mention meth.

No actually what you are doing is trolling. Proof you say? instead of just leaving your comment at... "After 1284, these large scale caregivers are now illegal" You feel the need to say "(like a meth lab!)". Why? Well IMO its either because you want to make caregivers look bad or you're just trying to piss people off.

Now, if you can read and comprehend things, the only comparison I made from growing herb to meth deals directly with the ILLEGAL PART. How would these two DRUG CRIMES be prosecuted any differently moving forward?

Who's attacking who??

I hope you can stop being insulted at being compared to a meth lab. I think you said you are a compliant caregiver, so I am not even sure why you are insulted, since I attempted to compare two situations that got busted, which you don't qualify for due being compliant. So, you'd never be in the position of getting busted, so why are you upset at this crowd being compared to a meth lab?

It seems that is your goal... To insult caregivers.

Surely you understand that I am a legal patient and it would seem silly to compare pot to meth, right?

Yet you continue to associate caregivers with meth cooks.

I think you're still just offended at my original post, which I have attempted to explain to you several times. Why don't you just admit that? Replying to me that you hate that comparison is silly and it creates a lot of noise. Plus, it makes people post insults and doesn't further discussion.

I'm offended at you comparing a medical marijuana grower to a meth cook. It really has nothing to do with CG/MMC

edit: Will you please refer to my posts correctly? You are wrong when you state that I am comparing legal MMC's to meth labs. I was only trying to compare ALREADY BUSTED grows. So, please stop using that example, it's not what I even said.

Read my post again.. I was actually asking you to take a step back and look at the big picture. That big picture is that if an MMC is serving more than 16/17 patients they are no longer compliant under federal law. Now, I myself would never even dream of lumping them in with meth cooks but under your logic.. I'm sure you get the picture.

[TheReleafCenter]

In terms of federal prosecution, it probably wouldn't be much different. They're both schedule 1 drugs.

[SprngsCaregiver]

You should stop referring to non compliant grows as 'caregivers', because I find it offensive. They are now breaking the law. I have no sympathy for those types of people, just like I have no sympathy for people who operate meth labs and get busted.

I actually said "caregivers with non compliant grows". Read it again.

Can we please stay on topic? Everyone knows you hate herb being compared to meth. Now that you understand that wasn't the example I was using, can we move on? I'm trying to use specific examples and people can't keep up. Let's remember that I am talking about BUSTED grows, not compliant caregivers. Do you understand? I don't know why this is so difficult..

You're the one who drug this thread off topic. Another attack huh?

Also, I understand that MMC's do not have a patient cap, so they can grow six plants for unlimited patients, so your example doesn't quite work. Is it possible you don't fully understand the legislation and it's potential impacts?

Um actually the federal government will prosecute anything over 98 plants so it does work.

Don't you realize the mods have been deleting our posts because you can't seem to remain civil and have a normal conversation?

How am I not remaining civil?

[cologrower420]

In terms of federal prosecution, it probably wouldn't be much different. They're both schedule 1 drugs.

Why is it so hard for people who grow marijuana to admit this? This new legislation basically makes most pre1284/109 caregivers illegal under the eyes of the law?

That's where my methlab comment came from, but you knew that.

[SprngsCaregiver]

Why is it so hard for people who grow marijuana to admit this? This new legislation basically makes most pre1284/109 caregivers illegal under the eyes of the law?

That's where my methlab comment came from, but you knew that.

It also makes MMC's non compliant according to federal law. Why is that so hard for you to understand?