Molasses is Sweet Organic Goodness

[Rusty Trichome]

Any chance of getting this thread stickied in the Indoor or Basic Growing forum, or both? Seems a shame to keep it tucked away in the Outdoor/Organic growing forum.

[Rusty Trichome]

I just came across some interesting info, and I think it's rather important...
Never really thought there would be a major difference in products, so I usually get what's on sale. Anyway, I have a couple botles of the stuff around...and was comparing the labels.

All are made by the same company, which is B&G Foods. All 3 are unsulphered. Numbers listed are from the labels, and are for 1 Tablespoon. (not that that matters, it's a percentage)

Bottle 1 is an old bottle with less than one application left in it. It's Brer Rabbit Full Flavor, and the label says:
Calcium - 10%
Magnesium - 20%
Iron - 15%

Bottle 2 is one I'm just finishing, is Grandma's Original, and the labes says:
Calcium - 4%
Magnesium - 2%
Iron - 4%

Bottle 3 was purchased last week, and is Brer Rabbit Full Flavor (same product as before) and it's label says:
Calcium - 8%
Magnesium - 8%
Iron - 2%

I'm guessing it's something to be addressed when dosing your plants, or cracking open a fresh bottle. That's a pretty wide spread. Makes a lot of sense too, with all the different ratio's I've seen thrown around the past couple of years.

The Grandma's page on their site tells of nutritients in the molasses (copper, manganeese, iron, magnesium, potassium, and that it's made from cane sugar. The Brer rabbit page says nothing about nutrition, lists no 'Nutritional Facts' (like on the labels) but does mention to check label for nutrition info. (big dark secret about ingredients, lol)
Grandma's Molasses
Brer Rabbit Molasses

So when you use molasses, pay attention to the labels for concentration (percentages) of the nutrients. These are the two I've been using, (from Walmart) and thought performance or lack thereof was a strain tollerance issue. Perhaps not. Might be a ratio thing.

Perhaps it's the use of plants other than cane sugar that Brer Rabbit is using, and the quality (variability) of the manufacturing process. But jeepers...I just can't see a major manufacturer saying..."It's only off 20%...that's close enough".

[dukesdad]

I started flowering my girls 3 weeks ago.
I usually water every other day.
First day is Dutch Nutrient Formula, mixed full strength.
2 days later, a bit of molasses in water.
2 more days, straight water.
Then back to the DNF.
Everything seems good so far.
Anybody have any suggestions, good or bad?

[DzEe206]

any1 got any experience using molasses during vegging, from what I understand it's a good source of nitrogen that won't burn your plant. I just wanna know if any1 has had done this before.

[Rusty Trichome]

Seriously...? If interested in doing your own homework...Google 'unsulphured molasses' and check for yourself.

If not, then the short answer is no, you can not use molasses as a stand-alone nutrient. It has boatloads of micro's, carbon, carbs, calcium, magnesium and iron...but is lacking in nitrogen. I give my plants a 1 tsp per gallon shot, once a month in veg. (basically once during the growth phase)

[DzEe206]

Seriously...? If interested in doing your own homework...Google 'unsulphured molasses' and check for yourself. I have just havnt came across much info on it being used during vegging so I figured I ask, doesn't hurt to try rite?

If not, then the short answer is no, you can not use molasses as a stand-alone nutrient. It has boatloads of micro's, carbon, carbs, calcium, magnesium and iron...but is lacking in nitrogen. I give my plants a 1 tsp per gallon shot, once a month in veg. (basically once during the growth phase)

thanks for the info rusty I must be lucky cause I've read some threads on cancom and you be getting on peoples asses when they ask stupid questions haha can't blame you for it tho but ima throw caution into the wind on this one and use it on one of my plants thats still in vegging.

[Dutch Pimp]

first pic is 8 weeks flowering...second pic is week #11: water & molasses only.....( the final 3 weeks)

[Rusty Trichome]

first pic is 8 weeks flowering...second pic is week #11: water & molasses only.....( the final 3 weeks)

As an additive it works great. Replaces calmag during flowering, and replaces bulking agents near harvest. But as a stand-alone nutrient...insufficient. :thumbsup:

[Dutch Pimp]

As an additive it works great. Replaces calmag during flowering, and replaces bulking agents near harvest. But as a stand-alone nutrient...insufficient. :thumbsup:

I agree. I underfeed during most of the grow. Sometimes too much, underfeeding. I was thinking the yield on this crop was going to be very poor, because I used 2 gallon pots and didn't do a third transplant; because of space limitations & lazy.

I feel like the molasses saved my ass, this time....

[Dutch Pimp]

Valentine Day harvest...:giveflower: