One Brown Mouse

[HighPopalorum]

The DOR wants either auditors coming by every two weeks or access to cameras live feed 24/7. That is in the grow ops anyways. I bet dispensos are the same.

The numbers don't add up... They've only asked for 27 employees, including administrators, and $2 million. Visiting every grow site and MMC in the state every two weeks is not possible. I really think there has to be more (or less) to this story. That seems like a strange thing for the DoR to do, but I don't know why it would be all that objectionable.

[onebrownmouse]

[QUOTE= That seems like a strange thing for the DoR to do, but I don't know why it would be all that objectionable.[/QUOTE]

Highpopalorum--Not that objectionable? What kind of American are you? No other business is the US has 24/7 live feed cameras that are recording and watched by ANY government agency. Talk about big brother. But hey, that's okay with you. Wanna buy a dispensary?

Matt Cook, the leading king pin at the dept of rev., has stated numerous times both publicly and privately that there WILL be cameras in ALL dispensaries and grows.

The state constitution protects CAREGIVERS- NOT medical marijuana centers.

To clear up FACTS

This is THE MOST INTRUSIVE, UN AMERICAN license application ANY AMERICAN has ever been asked to fill out. Ask ANY attorney who has read it if they themselves would sign it for ANY reason. And if they lie to you and say yes, hell, offer them your dispensary and ask them to follow through. It won't happen.

The state 'medical marijuana center' (an entity NOT protected in the Colorado Constitution Article 18 section 14) application requires owners to give up ALL state and federal privacy rights. Your signature means you also give up your right to un warranted searches and seizures. Owners must list ALL assets including private accounts, stocks, bonds and shares that have NOTHING to do with one's dispensary, AND childrens names, ages and address of residence. Owners must list all tattoos, piercings, scares and birthmarks. Owners must even provide a copy of their high school diploma.

This 'application' is REALLY a VOLUNTARY SIGNED CONFESSION saying one is BREAKING FEDERAL LAW and one gives them a nice neat organized list of their assets, including where HHS can find your children, that the feds will conveniently seize. Who needs more than 27 employees when the owners do all the work for them and then voluntarily sign it over AND pay them a fee on top of it.

And since one gives up their rights of privacy, the CO dept of rev. can send it over to the feds whenever they want. And if you are clueless to the fact that the feds will ruin your life, read what happened last week:

DEA Flouts Medical Marijuana Ordinance By Raiding First Applicant

DEA Flouts Medical Marijuana Ordinance By Raiding First Applicant | NEWS JUNKIE POST

Kathleens colorful? What I am is a NON pharmaceuticly sedated American.

Only an idiot would 'apply'. Or a pharmaceutical company (or someone like Josh Stanley, Peace in Medicine, Budding Health) who has bought their way in.

READ HB1284. It re-categorizes MMJ from schedule 1 (no known medical use) to schedule 2, which sounds maybe positive that the government is going to acknowledge it has medical value (aside from the federal patent 6630507 on cannabis or the federal medical program that has been mailing pot through the mail to patients for over 30 years). HOWEVER-read what schedule 2 drugs are. They are drugs that CAN ONLY BE DISPENSED BY PHARMACIES--NOT MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTERS ( things created by the CO Dept of Rev., which HAVE NO PROTECTION in STATE or FEDERAL law).

to read more on the Federal cannabis patent:

Medical Marijuana,US Government holds key patents for Marijuana as drug treatment,US Patent 6630507

The BIG BOYS have taken over and the mom and pop can kiss it goodbye.

[TurboALLWD]

Join the army of caregivers! :thumbsup: I hate to see one of the very few good dispensaries out there get taken down by the government, and thats exactly whats happened. The only difference is this dispensary is doing it on their own terms, much rather see it go like this than like what just happened in cali with the DEA.

You're edibles were the only edibles I thought were actually worth buying out of the 10-15 different dispensaries I tried. So many people vouched for you're edibles I just had to drive all the way up into the mountains to try some. And the bachlava was more than highly potent, it was delicious! Well worth the money imo. :jointsmile: The other dispensaries edibles wouldn't even produce a noticable buzz , especially the freebie the releaf center gave me for being a first time customer.

[neversummer]

Kathleen you are my hero!

Live free or die trying!

[ottistoys]

Kathleen I will miss you !!!


Peace

[HighPopalorum]

You would certainly know more than I, but I don't believe you when you say the DoR wants to monitor your business 24/7. I believe you are exaggerating. I meant that it is not objectionable to have to install cameras for security reasons. (tons of businesses are required to do so - pharmacies, liquor stores, banks, etc etc.) The reason why this is required is because these businesses, like yours, are more likely than others to attract crime.

This is THE MOST INTRUSIVE, UN AMERICAN license application ANY AMERICAN has ever been asked to fill out.

An exaggeration.

READ HB1284. It re-categorizes MMJ from schedule 1 (no known medical use) to schedule 2

No it doesn't. That is a federal classification.

The state constitution protects CAREGIVERS- NOT medical marijuana centers.

Source this, please. It certainly isn't in Amendment 20, which I just reread. Amendment 20 provides some exceptions to criminal law for patients and caregivers, but no exceptions to civil liability, or privacy, or local regulation, or health codes or any of the other stuff you're complaining about. Besides, you're not a caregiver, but a MMC. (If you don't want to be regulated, do as Turbo suggests and become a caregiver.)You should have to pay taxes as well as comply with other state and local ordinances like other businesses do. We can disagree about what the state can reasonably require of you in terms of fees, private information and compliance. We may not have found the perfect level of regulation, but we're getting there. Challenge the law in court if you don't like it, and perhaps some of the hard edges will be knocked off.

EDIT2: I like your medicine, though.

[onebrownmouse]

Join the army of caregivers! :thumbsup: I hate to see one of the very few good dispensaries out there get taken down by the government, and thats exactly whats happened. The only difference is this dispensary is doing it on their own terms, much rather see it go like this than like what just happened in cali with the DEA.

You're edibles were the only edibles I thought were actually worth buying out of the 10-15 different dispensaries I tried. So many people vouched for you're edibles I just had to drive all the way up into the mountains to try some. And the bachlava was more than highly potent, it was delicious! Well worth the money imo. :jointsmile: The other dispensaries edibles wouldn't even produce a noticable buzz , especially the freebie the releaf center gave me for being a first time customer.

We are ALL covered as legal caregivers under the Colorado Constitution Article 18 Section 14. If we weren't we would ALL be in jail right now. Our senators and legislature have sold us out and UN constitutionally altered the constitution language by limiting the number of people we can care give for.

[onebrownmouse]

This is, from the mouth of the best MMJ attorneys, the most intrusive application language in the country.

I understand schedule 1 and two and 3 and 4 are all federal classifications. But CO and OR have reclassified them in their state language.

First off it isn't called Amendment 20--it is Article 18 Section 14 of the CO constitution. It was Amendment 20 when it was on the ballot. The voters passed it. Some other future initiative will be called Amendment 20.

"Besides, you're not a caregiver, but a MMC. (If you don't want to be regulated, do as Turbo suggests and become a caregiver.)You should have to pay taxes as well as comply with other state and local ordinances like other businesses do" High P.

Another sheep misleading the rest. If I was not a caregiver I would be in jail. Everyone with more than 5 patients would be. When the state passes regulation that creates MMC's I can only be an MMC if I apply. I have not chosen to apply as I will not apply for something NOT COVERED in the CO constitution.

I have paid taxes, even before the state said it was required. Because No shit, every retail sale requires taxes. Zoning is the way caregivers can be legally regulated. I suppose you agree with the unconstitutional local banns, another thing that will be proven in the court of law.

"We can disagree about what the state can reasonably require of you in terms of fees, private information and compliance." High P

If you actually consulted an informed attorney, the fee's can be whatever the dept of rev wants. We do not have control or 'rights' on fees. Yes, we can say they are outrageous.

[TheReleafCenter]

Kathleen, you may want to be careful... we've heard operating after August 1st if you don't apply could put you at risk.

Good luck to you. :hippy:

[onebrownmouse]

and I have them.

How about the dept of rev installs 24/7 webcams in your house, High P? You clearly seem fine with BIG BROTHER watching your every move.