Thanks for the replies guys,

natrensland: I have thought about using that but it is expensive and I am sure there is something else to use thats comparable and cheaper.

Rusty: I have heard of using mollasus but I havent heard about flour. How much of each do you use and do you just add it to water, If so how much.

What about bat guano, grow big already has it in there, but I heard it is really high in phosphorus so it may give those big number like beastie bloomz.

I would like to try the molassus if you can give me the instructions.

Thanks.:stoned: