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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it' - The Denver Post

    (this should mark the beginning of the end of his campaign, not at all friendly to MMJ+patients)

    Republican gubernatorial candidate Scott McInnis spent much of the day blaming plagiarized passages in water essays for which he was paid $300,000 by the Hasan Family Foundation on a researcher, but that man has denied the charge.

    Rolly Fischer, a former engineer who McInnis said was responsible for lifting paragraphs and at least four full pages from work written by now-Colorado Supreme Court Justice Gregory J. Hobbs, told the Glenwood Post Independent today: "Scott's responsible for it."

    Earlier today, McInnis said reports that large portions of water articles published under his name mirrored work published by a Colorado water expert 20-plus years ago are a "non-issue"
    copobo Reviewed by copobo on . Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it' Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it' - The Denver Post (this should mark the beginning of the end of his campaign, not at all friendly to MMJ+patients) Republican gubernatorial candidate Scott McInnis spent much of the day blaming plagiarized passages in water essays for which he was paid $300,000 by the Hasan Family Foundation on a researcher, but that man has denied the charge. Rolly Fischer, a former engineer who McInnis said was responsible for lifting Rating: 5
    Colorado patient grower. :rambohead:

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    I was thinking of posting this as well. I think McInnis is toast, but Maes is even worse on the issue.

    Both candidates had pushed conservative platforms in their speeches to delegates at the state GOP assembly ?? from securing the borders to cutting the state budget. McInnis called for immigration reform and touted his endorsement by the champion of that cause, former 6th District Congressman Tom Tancredo.

    The minor difference in campaign platforms was that Maes pledged that, if elected, to abolish an amendment, passed by voters in 2000, that legitimized the distribution of medical marijuana. That assertion even surprised some of his supporters who are Republicans and ??Constitutionalists.? They noted that Colorado voters had approved that amendment and no governor can usurp the rights of the voters.

    -Pueblo Chieftain, April 19

    I do think, however, that Maes is less likely than McInnis to win the general.

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by copobo

    Earlier today, McInnis said reports that large portions of water articles published under his name mirrored work published by a Colorado water expert 20-plus years ago are a "non-issue"

    Lets see how much a non issue he thinks it when he looses in the Primary.

    I hope he falls flat on his face, we sure don't need the likes of him.

    I thought his slogan was the Jobs Governor, well I guess killing jobs when it comes to MMJ is ok in his opinion.
    [align=left]\"Risks must be taken because the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing.\" [/align]

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    I have never voted for a democrat, but I am nowhere near a token republican. It sucks that holding a powerful political position almost goes against the middle ground/Big L/small L libertarians, but jesus christ it is so maddening when both sides try to highlight these stupid, stupid things.

    My point: you'll hear the lefties here in colorado complain on this issue, while ignoring the same things done by their own, see below.
    ---http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-school-but-says-it-was-not-malevolent.html

    anyway, it's frustrating being a young person seeing how ridiculous our 2 party system is, and how hard it would be to change or get a viable candidate from an independent party elected.

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    Did anyone expect a Republican to have an original thought?

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    My point: you'll hear the lefties here in colorado complain on this issue, while ignoring the same things done by their own, see below.
    ---http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-school-but-says-it-was-not-malevolent.html

    Uhhhh... I'm pretty sure the Post published just as scathing an editorial on Biden's plagiarism. You cannot credibly argue that Biden's plagiarism was ignored, because it was one of the largest news stories of the year, and ended Biden's Presidential campaign. Scooter McInnis is now circling the same toilet bowl.

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
    Uhhhh... I'm pretty sure the Post published just as scathing an editorial on Biden's plagiarism. You cannot credibly argue that Biden's plagiarism was ignored, because it was one of the largest news stories of the year, and ended Biden's Presidential campaign. Scooter McInnis is now circling the same toilet bowl.
    Maybe I wasn't clear.

    It's frustrating because both sides seem to ignore their own parties' problems while trying to highlight the opposition's problems, when those problems are fucking identical.

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    well, this guy, McInnis, is not our friend.

    see:
    Guv hopeful McInnis wants to put brakes on medical marijuana | mcinnis, obama, hopeful - Public Affairs - Colorado Springs Gazette, CO

    from OnTheIssues.org ( Scott McInnis on the Issues )
    Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999)
    Voted YES on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)
    Rated D by VOTE-HEMP, indicating an anti-hemp voting record. (Dec 2003)

    AND, it appears he has other allegation of plagiarism popping up now that people are checking up on him:
    Did McInnis Also Plagiarize Speech, Column? - Politics News Story - KMGH Denver

    Show me a real, pro-patient, pro-MMJ candidate and I will vote for them no matter what their party. If they are anti-MMJ, I believe them to be closed minded and anti-freedom. It's the perfect litmus test.
    Colorado patient grower. :rambohead:

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by cologrower420
    Maybe I wasn't clear.

    It's frustrating because both sides seem to ignore their own parties' problems while trying to highlight the opposition's problems, when those problems are fucking identical.
    Not even close to being identical, nice try though......

    The Los Angeles Times reported that when Sen. Joe Biden ran for president in 1987, he "was accused of plagiarism when he did not credit Neil Kinnock, then leader of the British Labor Party, for much of his stump speech." The New York Times and the Associated Press made similar reports. But they did not note that Biden reportedly had credited Kinnock, as The Washington Post reported at the time: "John Quinlan, a reporter for the Sioux City Journal, said his notes showed Biden said he was quoting Kinnock when he used the same passage in a speech Aug. 14. Stories in The [New York] Times, The Boston Globe and other newspapers also said Biden had used the rhetoric and credited Kinnock for it."

    Media outlets reported allegations Biden plagiarized Kinnock, but not that he had previously credited him | Media Matters for America


    Whereas you have McInnis getting paid $300,000 for using someone elses work and it appears it was not an isolated incident;


    A new example of possible plagiarism by Scott McInnis surfaced Tuesday as the Republican gubernatorial candidate faced calls to repay $300,000 he received for plagiarized essays on water that he submitted as "original works."

    A Denver Post review of McInnis' floor speeches and columns published during his congressional career found striking similarities between a 1995 speech and 1994 column by McInnis and a previously published Op-Ed in The Washington Post.

    "There is a growing popular belief in South Korea that the North has outmaneuvered Washington and marginalized the South's role," wrote Richard V. Allen and Daryl M. Plunk in a Washington Post Op-Ed published Nov. 9, 1994.

    Six weeks later, McInnis wrote in the Rocky Mountain News: "There is growing South Korean sentiment that North Korea has outmaneuvered Washington and marginalized the South's input into this issue."

    A month after that, he made the same statement on the House floor with only minor alteration.

    Storm over possible plagiarism in McInnis writings escalates - The Denver Post

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    Researcher blamed for plagiarism says McInnis 'responsible for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
    Jesus Christ.
    My last response to you was an attempt to clarify what I posted before. Both attempts have apparently not registered with you, and I'm not sure why.

    I don't think you realize that we probably vote for the same people.

    I am simply trying to highlight BOTH parties' ignorance of their own problems, while attempting to highlight the problems of the opposition. Do you understand this point I am trying to make? I am not saying this as a republican, as a democrat, or any other party. I am simply making an observation.

    I am not taking a position that the McInnis and Biden issues are identical. What I meant was identical, is the fact that both parties' have their own problems with corruption etc. It's fucking retarded for repubs to highlight biden's issue just as it's fucking retarded for dems to use this as general ammo against repubs.

    I think Biden shouldn't be in office for that offense, and I think McInnis should return the money and issue a written apology. (edit: I wouldn't be opposed to McInnis leaving office either.)

    Is that clear?

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