Quote Originally Posted by oturbojoeo4o
thanks finn...i admire your grows...i had a really popular one in my sig...never got to finish

this will officially be the first time i can actually flower a plant and harvest it and smoke it!

hopefully i can achieve a smokeable yield...im just relieved i got the temps down to 80 last night think it was about 75 or 76 with lights off only had a 4 hr dark period because i hooked the timer up last night, these ladies(hopefully) have been under 24/0 since june 17th

im still clueless on when to take clones and what period of time i will be able to see sex signs...

from what i read you must clone in veg cycle but you must induce flowering to provide sex indicators...

i plan on scrog but dont want to have to take a clone or take out a male with the screen in place...

any helpful hints? i cant find an straight forward answer
If you want to Scrog then you need to know you have females. Otherwise it won't work as well and it'll be a lot of wasted time and effort.

You can take clones up to 2 weeks into flowering, just don't over-do it and stress it too much. You should see signs of sex within 7-10 days of 12/12.

Also, it's better to know how much stretch there is with flowering to get an idea of how to fill in the screen.

My advice would be to do plenty of LST in veg and then flower them out. You can take some clones while still in veg and if they have a problem rooting you will still have time to take more. Document the stretch with pics and then next grow you will know how much of the screen you should fill before flowering, anywhere from 30-70%. With my TW I went with about 60-70% (9 weeks flowering time) and the screen filled in quite nicely. Don't expect the first or second scrog attempt to be perfect. Takes time to know your strain and growing conditions. When you scrog I also recommend plenty of LST before the screen. Otherwise the main stem will be harder to control and will grow past all the other branches.

CDOT grow guide has a whole section on cloning. Click CTRL + F and type in cloning. Should have all the info you need about cloning.

If you have any questions just holler. :jointsmile: