Another reason to move away from HPS

[Rusty Trichome]

Excuse me, sir. LPS outputs far more lumens versus HPS, which is why it's preferred in highway/parking lot/street/airport lighting. He most certainly DOES know what he's talking about.
Really, Rusty, I also would have thought you'd know that LPS is used specifically because of the lower light pollution as well, which is why they're the *ONLY* choice of light used around astronomical observatories.

You're joking, right? I back my statements with proof from WIKI, and you want to argue. Go find something to do, because frankly...you suck at 'bickering'. I know the lamps they use in this part of our county are HPS, because I've talked to the worker that goes-up and changes the damn bulbs.

High pressure sodium lamps are quite efficientâ??about 100 lm/Wâ??when measured for photopic lighting conditions. They have been widely used for outdoor lighting such as streetlights and security lighting. Understanding the change in human color vision sensitivity from photopic to mesopic and scotopic is essential for proper planning when designing lighting for roads."
High Pressure Sodium lamp - Wikipedia

You keep beating a dead horse with the bullshit, and all you'll do is keep getting shit all over yourself. Here, in my little county, HPS is the lighting used. Sorry if you have a problem with (solid) the evidence I posted backing my statement, but you have posted nothing to back your statement. If you're going to get good at this 'bickering' thing, read-up and show your proof. Right now, you look like you're grasping for retribution for past arguments. Rather ineffectively, I might add. Perhaps you could submit your understandings to WIKI, and have them change their definition and description of HPS lighting.

Just to keep the conversation on-track...I never said the other lights aren't used, but I did point-out and prove what is used. Dispute that point, or back-off. Plain and simple.

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I use bulbs from 1000bulbs, Walmart (when I was still doing 400 watters) or whichever grow store that has 'em online for a good price. As I said...frankly, I don't give a damn. If it ignites, and lights, I'm fine. I'm not a commercial grower in need of that extra 10 lumens per square foot to make my bottom line and I'm not at all worried about any of the concerns you've posted regarding the degradative effects of light on plants. But I do grow killer meds, and try to concentrate on the gardening issues that matter.

Proper lighting is essential. Perfect lighting is anal. (there's no such animal)

[Dutch Pimp]

All right, now we are getting somewhere! Like I said, I've never used HPS so I may be talking out my asshole here but as far as I know, a full spectrum bulb or dual-arc bulb is actually a combination of MH and HPS.

chinese-made dual-arc bulbs have an extremely limited life span...if they make it... that far?

...all chinese crap is geared toward 240 volt operations...cause that's what they use...:smokin:...no 120 volt...anywhere in China

[Rusty Trichome]

Tell me...is there a difference between full spectrum and dual spectrum? (Please research before you respond...this get's old after a while...)

[Rusty Trichome]

Sorry Dutch, I wasn't refering to your post...:thumbsup:

[Weezard]

Aloha guys.

Rusty.
That's another sig,-worthy quote.:thumbsup:

"Proper lighting is essential. Perfect lighting is anal. (there's no such animal)"

If not for our predatory power prices, I'd be using HPS instead of da led also.

But, da rainbow chasers are fun to watch, and every now and then I learn sumpin'.

Aloha Da paan,
Welcome to da debate club.

If you can calmly counter Rusty's comments with cited facts, your position is solid enough to withstand anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Personally, I line my ducks up before I run dem by R.T.
(He'll just eat any stray ducks.)
Eat yer goat too, if ya let 'im get it.
Bottom line? we all learn sumpin':thumbsup::thumbsup:

Carry on, it's quite entertaining and informative.

Weezard

[Rusty Trichome]

Mmmm...goat stew with newbie duck sauce.

Just the thought makes my woodie splinter. :jointsmile:

[thepaan]

Tell me...is there a difference between full spectrum and dual spectrum? (Please research before you respond...this get's old after a while...)

You are a child. How about this since it saves everyone a lot of time: Tell us which bulb you are using and I will either a) tell you which bulb is not an HPS or 2) tell you which bulb has an output spectrum almost identical to a generic HPS. Here: multiple choice in case you get stumped easily. Which one of the following are you using?

A) Philips Master Son
2) Hortilux Super HPS
C) Osram Plantstar
d) Sunmaster Super-HPS

[pepurr]

You are a child.

That is a good way to make friends, NOT!

[thepaan]

I use bulbs from 1000bulbs, Walmart (when I was still doing 400 watters) or whichever grow store that has 'em online for a good price. As I said...frankly, I don't give a damn. If it ignites, and lights, I'm fine. Proper lighting is essential. Perfect lighting is anal. (there's no such animal)

My apologies for not reading the entire thread before replying. So, what I'm getting by this is: you use a gerneric bulb but your sure the output spectrum is different (a la "full spectrum") than the rest of the HPS on the market. The only 1000W HPS on 1000bulbs.com not on the previous attachment is the Pulsrite - but I'm sure it looks JUST like the rest.

So it is as I said: HPS = most damaging to plant growth artificial visible light source available (except maybe an amber LED...).

[Dutch Pimp]

I like 400 watt Hortilux HPS light...:thumbsup:..never burned or damaged a plant

...but, I prefer a 400 watt CMH bulb ...for my small, personal grows

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...-ballasts.html