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07-19-2010, 09:01 PM #21
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Betraying U.S. and Israel at the same time
Bong30 and Psycho4Bud, you twist the facts to absolve Israel of any responsibility. I don't have the time to plow through all of the B.S. in your posts. Here are two examples of your twisted views of history.
As I have already detailed for another misinformed member, of course the Palestinians rejected statehood so generously offered by the UN in 1947. You would have too. At the time that the UN voted to partition Palestine, the Jewish populations was between 6% and 12% of the total population and legally owned less than 3% of the land base. Yet they were awarded 52% of the land base under the partition plan, and the most productive land at that. (See Arieh L. Avneri, The Claim of Dispossession: Jewish Land Settlement and the Arabs, 1878â??1948, p224., 1984). If established according to the UN partition, the newly formed Jewish state would have had and overwhelming Arab majority. The Arabs rejected the partition on these grounds. In this light it is not an unreasonable position. They called for a democratic solution based on national referendum, a democratic solution rejected by the Zionist supporters, also for obvious reasons. It is also important to recall that this decision by the UN was taken at a time when colonial conquest was still the dominant mindset. Psycho4Bud, in reference to the 1967 war you said:
Originally Posted by Bong30
You are endorsing a might makes right argument? So if Israel were to start a war, in say, Lebanon and they were to subsequently lose all territory north of TA, you would be OK with that? I doubt it. Given this logic, the Arabs should arm themselves to the teeth until they are able to defeat Israel militarily, because acquisition of land by force would be acceptable to you, right?
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
More to the point, either you don't know the facts or you are lying in defense of Israel. Who started the war in 1967? The Arabs? No. That would be wrong Psycho. Israel started the war in 1967. Israel attacked Egypt. Israel was the aggressor. That's right, Israel started the war, a fact that the Israel lobby has worked hard to erase. Apparently it worked in your case.
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