Betraying U.S. and Israel at the same time

[bigsby]

I am not trying to bait anyone here. This is a good read. From Ha'aretz. Read it all the way through if you are going to comment.
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SILWAN, East Jerusalem â?? Ever wonder what a future America might look like if the Tea Party took over? Try today's Israel.

That distinctive brew of left-baiting, Obama-hating, poorly veiled racism, clergy-driven jingoism, clergy-fanned derision of the Supreme Court, the Luddite insertion of anti-government bile where an ideology should go, a majority which feels victimized and discriminated against and threatened by minorities of indeterminate legal status â?? it's all here. It just speaks Hebrew.

In fact, for a far-right segment of U.S. Jewry which, since the rise of Barack Obama, has mushroomed in volume and impact if not in numbers, anti-government animus has taken what may have been an inevitable next step: finding ways to betray in one stroke the policies and, in fact, the national interests of both the United States and Israel.
For proof, you need not rough it to the pistol-packing West Bank badlands, with their Bible-thumping libertarian homages to Dennis Hopper-strength nihilism.

Just leave the relatively friendly confines of West Jerusalem and stroll to the city's embattled Arab half. At any given Israeli prime ministerial visit to the president of the United States, right-wing Israeli Jews and their American vicarious Zionist groupies/bankrollers/plaque recipients will be hard at work leveraging settlement activity to jut a wrench into the works of anything smacking of a glimmer of a possible peace, or any effort at reconciliation.

In this regard, no one comes close to the Grand Old Man of befouling Jerusalem and U.S.-Israeli relations by remote control, the retired physician-turned-bingo parlor mogul Irving Moskowitz of Miami Beach. For years, Moskowitz has played godfather to what may be called the Inpost Settlements â?? moving Jews into East Jerusalem enclaves of dubious legality but unquestioned incendiary impact on the Palestinian population and the prospects of a future peace.

This week, two days after more than a thousand Jews and Arabs marched peaceably through the streets of Jerusalem's Palestinian Silwan neighborhood just south of the Old City walls, work began on a new settler neighborhood in a particularly sensitive quarter of East Jerusalem, Sheikh Jarrah. The owner and operator: Irving Moskowitz.

So practiced is the good doctor at acts of sabotage by real estate, that the following Time article, now 14 years old, could have been written today, with the revision only of the name of America's chief diplomat:

"Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State of the world's only superpower, visits the Middle East and manages to accomplish nothing for the peace process. Irving Moskowitz goes to the region after her, and the next thing you know, the process is threatened anew with riot and rupture. Of course, it's easier to hurt than help the onerous business of negotiating peace, but that's what makes Irving Moskowitz arguably the most pivotal player in the Middle East at the moment."

To be fair, Moskowitz has a serious rival of late in the race to dismantle the U.S.-Israel relationship, Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat. Not to be outdone by the Moskowitz initiative, Barkat this week leaned on his diplomatic Murder Incorporated, the Jerusalem Planning and Building Commission, to approve the razing of 22 Arab homes in the tinderbox neighborhood of Silwan, just south of the Old City walls, in order to make way for The King's Park, a pointed reference to the assertive if at times amoral David of the Jews.

Just a year and a half in office, Barkat has gone to great lengths â?? crowned by a spectacularly damaging post-Biden visit to Washington â?? to insult the U.S. government and embarrass his own.

But the Silwan affair sets the bar at a new low. The self-styled champion of authorized construction, Barkat rammed the project through the committee despite grave reservations on the part of Jerusalem City Engineer Shlomo Eshkol, Jerusalem municipality Legal Adviser Yossi Havilio, and the city the department which inspects building plans prior to their submission to the planning committee, which, according to documents obtained by Haaretz, found some 250 defects in the Silwan plan.

The thought occurs, that it is time to call the mayor by the name he has earned: Nero Barkat. If there is one man whose fiddling will cause this city to burn, this is your man. Not Raed Salah, not Irving Moskowitz, not Khaled Mashal. Nero.

This is dual disoyalty of an even more profound sort. In putting demagoguery and pandering to the far-right above the interests of Jerusalem Barkat is a true traitor to his city, and a true traitor to Israel. His actions go far beyond harming the fabric of life in this city of intolerable tensions and chronic woe.

In his recklessness and tunnel vision, Barkat is undermining the very legitimacy of Israel at a time when Israel can least afford it.

Forget, for the moment, that Palestinians universally, and justly, view East Jerusalem as their capital. Forget the issue of whether Israel has a right to claim all of Jerusalem â?? a claim which, having earned the world's (and America's) resounding non-recognition, has left Israel as formally the only nation on the planet without a capital.

Consider, instead, the issue of whether Israel is acting as a worthy custodian for this sacred city which, more than any other, belongs to the world. As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel.

Mournful is the Holy City whose mayor is a shvontz.

See: A Special Place in Hell / Tea Party Jews: Betraying U.S. and Israel at the same time - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

bigsby Reviewed by bigsby on 07-02-2010. Betraying U.S. and Israel at the same time I am not trying to bait anyone here. This is a good read. From Ha'aretz. Read it all the way through if you are going to comment. ------------------------------------------------------- SILWAN, East Jerusalem â?? Ever wonder what a future America might look like if the Tea Party took over? Try today's Israel. That distinctive brew of left-baiting, Obama-hating, poorly veiled racism, clergy-driven jingoism, clergy-fanned derision of the Supreme Court, the Luddite insertion of Rating: 5

[CovertCarpenter]

...Hubris.

The arrogance is breathtaking. They cannot see 1mm beyond their noses to see the actual harm they're causing to both Jews and Palestinians alike.

Can't we all just get along?

[boaz]

... Forget, for the moment, that Palestinians universally, and justly, view East Jerusalem as their capital. Forget the issue of whether Israel has a right to claim all of Jerusalem â?? a claim which, having earned the world's (and America's) resounding non-recognition, has left Israel as formally the only nation on the planet without a capital.

Consider, instead, the issue of whether Israel is acting as a worthy custodian for this sacred city which, more than any other, belongs to the world. As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel.

Mournful is the Holy City whose mayor is a shvontz.

See: A Special Place in Hell / Tea Party Jews: Betraying U.S. and Israel at the same time - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

yes, good interesting read. thanks for posting. I did not know that Jerusalem was not recognised as the capital of Israel. a certain "news" network always refers to it as Israel's Capital. :wtf:

is it just greed and money? or do some people really want to rebuild king david's temple and release the magic spirits or whatever? i just don't get it. The King's Park sounds like a casino or something to me. :jointsmile:

[killerweed420]

And so the occupying continues. Push them into smaller and smaller patches till they give up all hope. Sounds familiar. I believe north america was in that same postion hundreds of years ago.

[gypski]

And so the occupying continues. Push them into smaller and smaller patches till they give up all hope. Sounds familiar. I believe north america was in that same postion hundreds of years ago.

That map shows how the Palestinians are getting treated like the Native Americans were. And this is all after WWII. :wtf:

[boaz]

^ that's true, they are similar. both are driven by a belief in a manifest destiny or providence, too. its a sort of arrogance, really.

I guess some could say that because of this, we shouldn't be casting stones at Israel today, but the way I see it this is happening right now today with MY current tax money, therefore I will speak my mind on the matter and continue to meddle all I want. stop taking my tax money and then they can do what ever the hell they want over there. :twocents:

[RedLocks]

Good posts

[bigsby]

I guess some could say that because of this, we shouldn't be casting stones at Israel today, but the way I see it this is happening right now today with MY current tax money, therefore I will speak my mind on the matter and continue to meddle all I want. stop taking my tax money and then they can do what ever the hell they want over there. :twocents:

It's not just your tax money but also you political capital spent at the international level. And these to items, money (read economic and military support) coupled with political backing which make up a core issue fueling hatred of American in the region and beyond. Obviously support for Israel is not the only issue. But remove this issue and the appeal of fundamentalism looses a one of it's central themes.

It is good to see that there is awareness of these issues. That marks a big change from even 10 years ago. The more we speak out the more likely we are to see real and lasting adjustments to American policies.

[boaz]

great point, bigsby. its not just the money that we spend that is the real issue it is mostly the perception of us as the sole supporter of Israel's actions. we have become responsible for what Israel does without any say in how she does it.

The end result, our soldiers are being killed my the dozens every single week trying to complete their mission to wins the hearts and minds of muslems in our newly adopted countries. its madness. :twocents:

[Psycho4Bud]

From 1517-1917 Turkey's Ottoman Empire controlled a vast Arab empire, a portion of which is today Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine. During World War I (1914-1918), Turkey supported Germany. When Germany was defeated, so were the Turks. In 1916 control of the southern portion of their Ottoman Empire was "mandated" to France and Britain under the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned (mandated) to France... and "Palestine" (today's Jordan, Israel and "West Bank") was mandated to Great Britain.

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In 1923, the British divided the "Palestine" portion of the Ottoman Empire into two administrative districts. Jews would be permitted only west of the Jordan river. In effect, the British had "chopped off" 75% of the originally proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian nation called Trans-Jordan (meaning "across the Jordan River").

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The 1947 U.N. Resolution 181 partition plan was to divide the remaining 25% of Palestine into a Jewish Palestinian State and a SECOND Arab Palestinian State (Trans-Jordan being the first) based upon population concentrations. The Jewish Palestinians accepted... the Arab Palestinians rejected. The Arabs still wanted ALL of Palestine... both east AND west of the Jordan River.

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The end result of the 1948-49 Israeli War of Independence was the creation of a Jewish State slightly larger than that which was proposed by the 1947 United Nations Resolution 181. What remained of that almost-created second Arab Palestinian State was gobbled up by (1) Egypt (occupying the Gaza Strip) and by (2) Trans-Jordan (occupying Judea-Samaria (a.k.a. the "West Bank" of the Jordan River) and Jerusalem. In the next year (1950) Trans-Jordan formally merged this West Bank territory into itself and granted all those "Palestinian" Arabs living there Jordanian citizenship.

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Throughout much of May 1967, the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian armies mobilized along Israel's narrow and seemingly indefensible borders in preparation for a massive invasion to eliminate the State of Israel. The battle cry heard throughout the Arab world was then, as it continues to be... "Slaughter the Jews" and "Throw the Jews into the Sea!" But the Jews of Israel, remembering 2,000 years of being butchered, gassed, burned and skinned (eg. The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, the Arab rampages of early Palestine and particularly the Holocaust), planned and executed a perfect pre-emptive strike against Egypt.

http://www.masada2000.org/Pre-67.gif

After ONLY six days of air, sea and hand-to-hand ground warfare, Israel defeated all three Arab armies along three separate fronts, capturing the entire Sinai Desert from Egypt, the 37mile x 12mile Syrian Golan Heights and the so-called "West Bank" (including East Jerusalem and its Old City) from Jordan.

http://www.masada2000.org/1967mapb.gif

Usually when one side starts a war and loses both the war AND some territory, no one on the planet would expect the winner to give back anything! This not only sounds preposterous, it IS preposterous! But the Jews (I hate to admit) had such an insane obsession of wanting the world to love them that they were willing to give back the entire Sinai Desert (oil fields, air bases and endless miles of security buffer) to Egypt for a piece of paper.

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The Middle East war is not now and never was a conflict between Israelis/Jews on the one hand and Palestinians on the other. In fact, the Arab-"Palestinians", while currently the perpetrators of most of the anti-Jewish atrocities, were never a very important part of the conflict. In fact, before about 1970, virtually no one in the world considered the Middle East conflict to be one between Israelis and Palestinians.
The term "Palestinian" itself had referred to Israeli Jews back in the 1940s, and had been slowly deconstructed and redefined to refer to the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza. The Middle East Conflict was always a war by Arabs against Jews, not a conflict between Israelis and "Palestinians." The war was repackaged as a conflict between Jews and Palestinians as a public relations gimmick by the Arab fascist regimes. These regimes had never had any interest in "Palestinians," in creating a "Palestinian" state, or in "Palestinian nationalism" before 1967. That is because Palestinian nationalism did not and DOES NOT exist. The Palestinians were a regional group of Arabs having virtually no cultural nor national distinctive traits separating them from Syrians, Lebanese, and Jordanians. They are all basically Arabs!.

The bulk of what are called "Palestinian Arabs" are members of families who migrated into the Land of Israel beginning in the late 19th century. Palestinian nationalism is a mislabeling of Arab nationalism. Arab nationalism exists, although it is closely bound up with Islamic nationalism and even Islamism. Palestinian nationalism, however, is a phantom. It is nothing more than genocidal hatred of Jews!

The Arab assaults and aggressions against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1968, and 1973 had nothing to do with Palestinians. The Palestinian terror campaign would itself be easy to suppress today and eradicate if the Middle East conflict were really a Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Israel would simply obliterate the terrorists and expel their supporters to Syria and Lebanon. The Middle East war continues because it is really an Arab-Israeli war, not an Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It is also in large part a war between barbarism and civilization. In many ways an Islamic religious jihad against the Jews.
History of Israel and Palestine in VERY Easy To Understand Maps

You can't post maps without something being defined other than "they're the bad guys". Lands have changed since the beginning of time like it or not...try doing the same for Europe once and use the wars as the key.

Everybody knows that Israel has over 200 nukes....just maybe it's the U.S. keeping them in their bunkers instead of flying across the middle east?

Have a good one!:s4: