thanks bigtopps :thumbsup:

ok...i have grown with all of the above....cfl/t5 just not gonna cut it if you want some production....as bigtopps says "T5's and CFL's are less efficient watt for watt".... to me it is a waste of money and time not getting the proper lighting whether it be LED or HID....in veg a good LED will blow all lighting sources away and in flower it takes some skill and having the right spectrum to flower with LED :jointsmile: